It's official: TABA is now "The Hobbit: The Battle of the Five Armies"

The Hobbit 3: The Search for More Money

Oh man, Malickfan is gonna have to change his sig now.

Is this a conceit or...?

TBOTFA ------> FATBOT

I'm calling the third film FATBOT.

The only reason they have changed the title to BO5A is to make it sound cooler for marketing and advertising. Jackson dressing it up in faux love for the source makes my teeth ache.

Well, it will at least please those who were affraid the movie wouldn't be one long battle sequense.   

bungobaggins wrote:The Hobbit 3: The Search for More Money

This gets my vote Bungo !  

This just goes to show how nothing is settled, there is no concrete plan for these films, which is why THEY ARE SO BAD! GET YOUR SHIT TOGETHER PJ!!!!!!!!!!!!

Agreed Tinuviel: this doesn't seem right. I don't like fluid film-making amalgamations! Give me some solid Clint Eastwood directing any day. (I heard in some commentary that Million Dollar Baby, for example, was shot in under 40 days simply because Eastwood knew exactly what he wanted and was often able to finish scenes with only a few takes.)

This reminds me of an article I read on Cracked.com talking about how the technological limitations of the past may have in fact contributed to better film-making by forcing directors to limit their creative energy to semi-realistic goals. The Hobbit is mentioned actually (#1).

http://www.cracked.com/blog/5-types-movie-adaptations-that-must-be-stopped_p2/

With the malleability of studio-based cgi, there's just too much leeway for mid-production change!

Forest Shepherd wrote:This reminds me of an article I read on Cracked.com talking about how the technological limitations of the past may have in fact contributed to better film-making by forcing directors to limit their creative energy to semi-realistic goals. The Hobbit is mentioned actually (#1).

http://www.cracked.com/blog/5-types-movie-adaptations-that-must-be-stopped_p2/

I'd argue that it's not just the technological limitations, but the challenge of proving himself to a wide audience that forced PJ to keep his worst impulses in check during filming for LOTR.

What the heck is wrong with the end of that crossbow? Did the smith get halfway through adding a cooking pot to the end and then give up?

Eldorion wrote:

Forest Shepherd wrote:This reminds me of an article I read on Cracked.com talking about how the technological limitations of the past may have in fact contributed to better film-making by forcing directors to limit their creative energy to semi-realistic goals. The Hobbit is mentioned actually (#1).

http://www.cracked.com/blog/5-types-movie-adaptations-that-must-be-stopped_p2/

I'd argue that it's not just the technological limitations, but the challenge of proving himself to a wide audience that forced PJ to keep his worst impulses in check during filming for LOTR.

Indeed, I'd certainly agree, even if that lies outside of the point the article was making.
I do still think, however, that it would be more difficult for him to make as many changes mid-production as he has if he was stuck with the same technology from 15 years ago.

I think you're right. If you look at what a monumental effort it took to create Gollum, the last-minute additions of CGI characters in The Hobbit really highlights what has changed.

Although, even with early-2000s technology, Jackson was still making plenty of post-production changes. They talk in the Appendices about how re-recording dialogue allowed them to create new takes for scenes months or years after filming them. And I'm gonna undermine the point in my previous paragraph by noting how they replaced Sauron with a CG troll at the Black Gate.

Half expecting them to add "Part One"...

wait what the fuck i what no fuck anvdk c.. weel it does fit better...

NO ! no no no no no ! Not two fooking parts ! Raddy, are you off your chump ??

All of these films feel like the papers I'd right in highschool. I'd write them in one night, not look at them, and hand them in. Since I was smart, I got away with it. But in the real world, you can't just spend two minutes on something and expect it to be enough. I get going through drafts is a good thing. But PJ isn't going through drafts, he's still struggling with the outline! He can't even finish his rough draft! It kind of makes him look spineless. Make the tough decisions, don't worm your way around them. Cut things if you have to, settle for something safe! Don't make the first idea that comes to your head your final idea!

“To achieve great things, two things are needed: a plan and not quite enough time.” - Leonard Bernstein

All PJ needs is a plan!

bungobaggins wrote:“To achieve great things, two things are needed: a plan and not quite enough time.” - Leonard Bernstein

All PJ needs is a plan!

Some would say he could do with less time as well.  

It was nice to see in the facebook comments that people are being more vocal about their disappointment with these movies. All we need is a Plinkett review! (But I am convinced that in a few years public opinion will sway more towards our side.)

One day all the world shall consist of only crabbit purists and my work will finally be done.   

Jesus Christ.

  

I guess it's a better title than Into the Fire, and at least it show's they are being honest (i.e a gaint clusterf*ck of action scenes strung together for three hours) about their feelings to the source material.

Its like anything thats new in your life, its great to start with & often your view is blinkered. Given time & repartition you start to see things in a different light. Things you were once so sure of & defended become hazy, foggy or down right fook bad. You start to see flaws, things that could have been better or different. I dont need the fullness of time, I can see full well how fooking AWFUL these films are. With patience maybe others who thought Peejers could do no wrong, & was king, or God of cinema in their eyes, will see differently ?? ....................................................................................................................Then I can say