Re: Doctor Who [10]

by malickfan Wed Feb 25, 2015 10:26 pm

Pettytyrant101 wrote:All good episodes Genesis of the Daleks noticeable by its absence.

I have just started Tom Baker actually, Robot was good fun, but a rather weak story.

by Mrs Figg Wed Feb 25, 2015 11:34 pm

I liked The End of Time a lot. Very Happy

But then I would. Laughing

Just realized that I have never seen Love and Monsters. Shocked

by Bluebottle Thu Feb 26, 2015 2:28 pm

I'm not sure I would recommend it. Sofa

by Bluebottle Thu Feb 26, 2015 2:31 pm

malickfan wrote:
Pettytyrant101 wrote:All good episodes Genesis of the Daleks noticeable by its absence.

I have just started Tom Baker actually, Robot was good fun, but a rather weak story.

Robot is pretty much a Pertwee episode with Baker in the role. It gets better over the next couple of episodes. And particularily in the next season. When the new showrunners got to leave their mark on the show.

Peter Hincliffe (the producer) did complain that the previous showrunners had already scheduled out the entirety of his first season with the go to villains, like Daleks and Cybermen.

by malickfan Thu Feb 26, 2015 2:33 pm

Mrs Figg wrote:

Just realized that I have never seen Love and Monsters.

You don't want to

by Pettytyrant101 Thu Feb 26, 2015 2:33 pm

Its still better than Fear Her. Love and Monsters has some of the characters of the LINDA group at least that put in good performances given what they have to work with, Fear Her has nothing.

"Robot was good fun, but a rather weak story."- Malick

Robot isn't what I would call a 4th Doctor story, its very much still a 3rd Doctor story. Fortunately it doesn't take long for the shift to happen to proper 4th Doctor style stories, they just had to adapt to Tom's style and a new direction- ha! simu post Blue- we are on the same wave length on this one I see!

by malickfan Thu Feb 26, 2015 2:37 pm

Bluebottle wrote:

Robot is pretty much a Pertwee episode with Baker in the role. It gets better over the next couple of episodes. And particularily in the next season. When the new showrunners got to leave their mark on the show.

Peter Hincliffe (the producer) did complain that the previous showrunners had already scheduled out the entirety of his first season with the go to villains, like Daleks and Cybermen.

Robot did seem like a holdover from Pertwee (though I think most doctors are written rather generically in their first few eps), I'm not sure the Brig would have worked very well with 4 anyway (he's only in, what, 2-3 Tom Baker stories?), glad they started to move way from Earth a bit more.

Ark in Space was really good fun Nod

Though the bubblewrap slug wasn't convincing even by 1974 standards...

Harry seems like a bit of a thicky though...

Warmed to Tom Baker straight away, though his wide eyed stare is kinda creepy Laughing

by malickfan Thu Feb 26, 2015 2:39 pm

Pettytyrant101 wrote:Its still better than Fear Her. Love and Monsters has some of the characters of the LINDA group at least that put in good performances given what they have to work with, Fear Her has nothing.

True, I liked Marc Warren's performance, though I'm glad RDT scrapped the idea of him being the series 4 companion, one reference to oral sex with a paving slab was bad enough

Fear Her wasn't distasteful or weak, it was just shit Nod

by Pettytyrant101 Thu Feb 26, 2015 2:42 pm

Fear Her wasn't distasteful or weak, it was just shit- Malick

True. Nod

"I think most doctors are written rather generically in their first few eps"

Moffat said that about writing for new Doctors- at the start you just put in generic Doctor stuff. The basic vanilla Doctor. And you see what the actor does with it, then the writers start to tailor the dialogue to the delivery.

by malickfan Thu Feb 26, 2015 2:49 pm

Pettytyrant101 wrote:Fear Her wasn't distasteful or weak, it was just shit- Malick

True.

Moffat said that about writing for new Doctors- at the start you just put in generic Doctor stuff. The basic vanilla Doctor. And you see what the actor does with it, then the writers start to tailor the dialogue to the delivery.

Oddly enough I think Mcgann was one of the exceptions, although it was a joint UK/US production it was written and directed by Brits and a continuation of the old series, but I still felt 8's joyous wide eyed wonderment was a sharp contrast to Classic Who, it felt more like a soft reboot than a continuation, it's weird I had no trouble picturing him as a doctor, but not necessarily one that links all that well with the others.

by Bluebottle Thu Feb 26, 2015 2:53 pm

Pettytyrant101 wrote:ha! simu post Blue- we are on the same wave length on this one I see!

I'd say so. Smile

Robot is alright for what it is. Though I think my favourite moment was the 4th Doctyor trying to bugger off immidiately after his regeneration. Very in character, I thought. Razz

malickfan wrote:Ark in Space was really good fun Though the bubblewrap slug wasn't convincing even by 1974 standards...

Ark in Space is a lot more like it. Very Happy

Fun and interesting, but over ambitious are very much the bywords for the Baker era.

malickfan wrote:Warmed to Tom Baker straight away, though his wide eyed stare is kinda creepy

by Pettytyrant101 Thu Feb 26, 2015 2:55 pm

I felt at the time that 8 reminded me most of 5 but with more passion.

I find Toms mad eyes and huge toothy grin, and how he deploys them, not so much creepy as just alien. Just slightly, off, but in a joyously mad sort of way.

by malickfan Thu Feb 26, 2015 3:03 pm

Pettytyrant101 wrote:I felt at the time that 8 reminded me most of 5 but with more passion.

I find Toms mad eyes and huge toothy grin, and how he deploys them, not so much creepy as just alien. Just slightly, off, but in a joyously mad sort of way.

I meant creepy more in the way that he didn't seem to blink very often (maybe he was waiting for the angels to turn up...), 'joyously mad' I think that would sum 4 up very well, it was interesting to note his Body Language and Voice were more alien than his actions, it made quite a chnage from Pertwee's stright laced dandy (he was alien, almost because he acted so 'normal')

Having listened to more of 8's audios, I can see the 5 resemblance, but he also reminds he of Hartnell a bit, mildy eccentric, but very curious and Edwardian.

by Pettytyrant101 Thu Feb 26, 2015 4:59 pm

Yeah I can see how you could be thinking Hartnell, they do share that same feeling of Edwardian gentlemen adventurer.

by Pettytyrant101 Fri Feb 27, 2015 11:22 am

Series 9 filming-

Spoiler:

by Mrs Figg Fri Feb 27, 2015 1:52 pm

Spoiler:

by Pettytyrant101 Fri Feb 27, 2015 3:29 pm

Spoiler:

by **Amarië** Fri Feb 27, 2015 5:59 pm

Bluebottle wrote:
Mrs Figg wrote:I don't know where to even start on that... whatever it was...without beginning another flame war, so I will refrain.

But.. what about all our fun.

Oh don't worry, Blue. It is only a matter of time before things will go kaboom again. We will refuse to join Petty's church of perpetual Amy worship and he can't fathom a reason for this except that we must be shallow jealous mean nagging bitches. Shrugging

So you can safely run along and stock up on popcorn. Nod

Now where's that popcorn smiley....

by Pettytyrant101 Fri Feb 27, 2015 6:27 pm

We will refuse to join Petty's church of perpetual Amy worship and he can't fathom a reason for this except that we must be shallow jealous mean nagging bitches.- Amarie

You missed out also wearing RTD blinkers that allows for extreme hypocrisy and not being able to see the obvious about RTD whilst flaming Moffat for exactly the same thing.

Here to help! Very Happy

by Mrs Figg Fri Feb 27, 2015 6:34 pm

ooooh thems fightin talk. Laughing

hardly hypocracy. seeing as RTD aint sexist.

here to help. Very Happy

by **Amarië** Fri Feb 27, 2015 6:40 pm

I see the obvious about RTD and Moffat quite clearly, but I appreciate the offer.

{{{AHA! There it is: Doctor Who [10] - Page 18 Popcorn2

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by Pettytyrant101 Fri Feb 27, 2015 7:22 pm

Before hostilities rightly resume, this made me chuckle-

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by Mrs Figg Fri Feb 27, 2015 7:25 pm

by **Amarië** Fri Feb 27, 2015 7:32 pm

Bet it's a elastic belt, no time to waste!

by Bluebottle Sat Feb 28, 2015 8:50 am

Amarië wrote:{{{AHA! There it is: }}}

{{{Ah, well played. I'll just sit back and enjoy the fireworks then. Very Happy

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