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Post by David H Sat Jul 07, 2012 2:00 pm

A very complex issue. I think unfortunately some of the problems may never be solved. They just lay too deeply within all of us humans, whether we like to admit it or not.

Take for example love triangle murder/suicides. They're throughout all our art from the earliest of times. (There would certainly be no opera without them! No ) Why do people kill the ones they love most, and themselves, and why are we fascinated to watch???? Anybody who could do this is capable of ANYTHING!!! Evil or Very Mad Yet we somehow seem to accept it in art, and even see it as romantic.

I agree that both isolation (because of the detachment), and lack of isolation (because of increasing pressure) are a major factors. I think they're actually very closely related. I know that the loneliest places in the world for me are big cities where millions of people walk by you, never saying "hi" or making eye contact, especially to somebody who isn't of their group. It always feels dehumanizing to me as an outsider.

But I'd also like to suggest that romance plays a major part in these monstrous events. If a person becomes depressed with their life and is ready to die, it's unfortunately not really so crazy to want to go out with drama and romance, like a suicide bomber or mass murderer, is it?

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Post by Pettytyrant101 Wed Jul 11, 2012 1:58 am

This sort of thing makes me crabbit. Someone in Ohio (appropriately enough) buys the prop of the shuttlecraft from the original Star Trek and after five years it looks like this:

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Instead of this

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Where did he keep it? In his cess pit? Mad

Fortunately it has been bought by a Brit at auction for a whopping £45,000 ($69,827) who plans to restore it.



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Post by David H Wed Jul 11, 2012 2:19 am

Re-entries are hard on the paint!
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Post by Eldorion Wed Jul 11, 2012 3:06 am

Let's hope it makes the Atlantic journey safely. Any word on what the new owner plans to do with the prop?

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Post by Pettytyrant101 Wed Jul 11, 2012 3:27 am

A nerd that can afford to spend £45 grand on a prop- I reckon she'd go back with him anyway!

(He just said he planned to fully restore it- not sure if that means to flying status Very Happy )

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Post by Eldorion Wed Jul 11, 2012 3:29 am

I'll admit to being a little bit jealous but it is a very cool story. Very Happy
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Post by Mrs Figg Wed Jul 11, 2012 11:16 am

from a restorers point of view I should imagine that it was a paint or spray job and not done with car industry paints which are meant to last years under intense conditions. Without doubt the prop was not meant to last in eternity, so in the heat sun and humidity the paint would quickly peel off and become friable. so dont be too hard on the owner it was probably deteriorating from day one.
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Post by David H Wed Jul 11, 2012 2:30 pm

The trailer looks pretty badly neglected too, though. I'm guessing it was working when it came there.
I wonder if the doors and engine pods are lost, or in a pile somewhere.
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Post by Ally Wed Jul 11, 2012 4:22 pm

Would I make out under a star trek prop? Probably

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Post by Pettytyrant101 Wed Jul 11, 2012 4:46 pm

Even a Horta?

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Post by David H Wed Jul 11, 2012 5:12 pm

Ally wrote:Would I make out under a star trek prop? Probably
Done that. Nod
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Post by Pettytyrant101 Wed Jul 11, 2012 6:04 pm

Not sure making your partner wear vulcan ears and paint herself green counts David. Suspect

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Post by David H Wed Jul 11, 2012 7:03 pm

Trivia question: Name the prop used in both one of the Star Trek movies and one of the Pirates of the Caribbean movies and I'll tell you a story.
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Post by Mrs Figg Wed Jul 11, 2012 7:59 pm

bounce tell us a story story bounce Razz

hem Embarassed grown women shouldnt bounce but I love stories. Wink
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Post by Pettytyrant101 Wed Jul 11, 2012 8:22 pm

Mrs Figg grown women should be encouraged to bounce about at every opportunity. Nod

Dave the answer is a ship .
Same ship used in Pirates (Interceptor) as in opening scene of Star Trek Generations.
Its real name is the Lady Washington and as an added nerd bonus trivia the old man Troi hands the wheel to in Generations is its real life owner.
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Post by David H Wed Jul 11, 2012 10:00 pm

Mrs Figg wrote: bounce tell us a story story bounce Razz

hem Embarassed grown women shouldnt bounce but I love stories. Wink
On the contrary Mrs Figg. It can be quite charming when grown women bounce. Wink
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Post by David H Wed Jul 11, 2012 10:20 pm

Pettytyrant101 wrote:
Dave the answer is a ship .
Same ship used in Pirates (Interceptor) as in opening scene of Star Trek Generations.
Its real name is the Lady Washington and as an added nerd bonus trivia the old man Troi hands the wheel to in Generations is its real life owner.
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Very good, Petty! The old man is Capt. Bill Larson. He was captain of Lady Washington in 1993-4 (not the owner though) and had been taking the Lady W down the coast from Washington state to California with the intention of sailing her to Hawaii, when the Hollywood location scouts saw her and made an offer we couldn't refuse. Everybody in a red waistcoat is actual Lady W crew.

I've been sailing with her for quite a few years as time permits and I've got quite a few stories (though not all of them fit for print.) So as you're the winner Petty, I'll give you a choice: would you like a good old fashioned "So there we were. No shit. True story!" sea story? Or would you prefer something a little tamer but with warmer sheets, more on the line of what Ally was referring to? It's up to you!
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Post by Pettytyrant101 Wed Jul 11, 2012 10:58 pm

Whichever story has more sex in it of course! bounce

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Post by David H Thu Jul 12, 2012 12:09 am

Well the best sex stories are not mine to tell. Like the time that the porno filming crew showed up onboard on the pretense of doing a modeling shoot, and began behaving most improperly Shocked So we had to ask them politely to leave. We have an educational mission that isn't really compatible with such things. They later played the same trick on HMS Bounty replica and it became the #1 best selling porno tape for a while (simply called "Pirates") But that's a different story.

But shipboard romance is another thing. There are two ships in the organization that sail together up and down the West Coast during the school year teaching maritime history to about 20,000 school kids. We often make the front page of the newspapers and the evening news when we come into port, and there will often be fans (sometimes hundreds) and even groupies waiting for us when we sail in. Johnny Depp and Orlando Bloom have done a lot for the love lives of the LW crew! Traveling with the ships is the closest thing to the life of a rock star that I will probably ever see!

The crew of about 15 is usually is split roughly 50/50 men and women, mostly 18 to 30 and serving contracts from anywhere from 2 weeks to 9 months. Since we're rarely in any port more than a week or two, people's social life tend to either be with the locals (which is very short lived) or partnering within the crew, which can have its own issues. There is a lot of romance and passion that arises naturally out of the location and lifestyle that can be wonderfully supportive, or can be absolute hell with no place to hide, and of course all your crewmates know everything! Imagine having an ugly breakup in a very public place, then having to work and live with your ex 24/7 as he/she starts dating your best friend. Rolling Eyes

Because I like to keep drama in my life to a minimum I usually try to stay aloof of such things. But a few years ago there were two ladies on the crew, best friends and excellent sailors both, who made it clear that they thought I was being completely unreasonable. Indeed it soon became clear that the competition between them for my favor was becoming so fierce that it would probably destroy their friendship and the morale of the entire ship if one of them didn't prevail.

Well I ask you, what could I do? In a moment of weakness I went drinking with one of them and....well...things happened Embarassed (wild and noisy things I'm told! It's a very small ship...Embarassed Embarassed Embarassed)

Think about a square rigger and use your imagination. I'm afraid that's all a gentleman can say.....

[Incidentally I'm still friends with both those ladies. Boating is such a great way to meet people! Very Happy ]
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Post by Pettytyrant101 Thu Jul 12, 2012 12:11 am

Incidentally I'm still friends with both those ladies.- David

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Post by David H Thu Jul 12, 2012 2:22 am

Maybe I should stick to bear stories.
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Post by Mrs Figg Thu Jul 12, 2012 2:08 pm

tee hee! did you do the walk of shame? or walk the plank? more stories if you feel like it Dave! bounce Bear or otherwise, tee heee! Laughing
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Post by David H Thu Jul 12, 2012 6:29 pm

I'll happily give you another story Mrs Figg. Probably one that doesn't have as many blushes in it though...Embarassed
But maybe I'll wait until the excitement from the new revelations of Comic Con has died down.
(Give me a nudge if I forget.)
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Post by Ally Thu Jul 12, 2012 6:45 pm

What happened at comic con

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Post by Pettytyrant101 Thu Jul 12, 2012 6:50 pm

Not much Ally- its this weekend (I think) so hasn't started yet.

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