The Battle of the Five Armies, final trailer

halfwise wrote:I forgot about Sebastian!  

Yep, that will redeem all that came before if he rides in on the back of Beorn, triumphantly wielding a soup spoon or something.

Mrs Figg wrote:wow two Whole seconds of Bilbo, and all the rest is Thorin problemz.

Johnnyd wrote:The movie look fake  the CGI just keeps getting worse and worse look like a video game peter Jackson ruined the Hobbit.

Pettytyrant101 wrote:Well its a nice editing job again. In terms of being a trailer its well done, like the AUJ one. But you disguise anything into looking good in a trailer, its what they are for.
And there is more than enough there to worry anyone who cares abut the book and are looking for hints as to likely content.

BN.filmz wrote:

Mrs Figg wrote:wow two Whole seconds of Bilbo, and all the rest is Thorin problemz.

Actually the book is about everything happening around Bilbo - that's the adventure. This is the quest of the dwarves; it's not Bilbo's quest. And Thorin is the leader - not Bilbo. And Gandalf is their advisor - not Bilbo. Bilbo is OUR eyes; he's the ordinary guy, the one we can identify with. He does play an active part in much of the adventure - but he's not controlling the events. And he definitely only plays a very small part in the finale battle.

Yeah in the BOOK it is, in the film its not, its about Thorin. I disagree its not Bilbo's Quest, I think it is as much his as the Dwarves quest. His Quest is just as important if not MORE important. They want wealth and territory and Bilbo wants adventure and to prove himself despite his inclination to have nothing to do with danger and just ignore the Took side. I also disagree that Bilbo is only a passive observer, what Bilbo decides to do DOES control events, he actually controls ALL the important events. The finding of the Ring, NOT Killing Gollum, becoming the defacto leader of the Group, saving the Dwarves lives on numerous occasions, rescuing the Dwarves from the dungeons so getting them to laketown, pissing Smaug off so much he goes and destroys Laketwon and then gets killed by Bard, Bilbo effectively kills Smaug, then he TAKES the Arkenstone. I am afraid its ALL about Bilbo and Thorin is just there for the 'message' at the end, ie lusting after riches at the expense of family and friends is a Bad Thing.  The film pretty much ignores all of this in favour of Thorin as pseudo-Aragorn.

But besides that, it's just a trailer. So of course there are many glimpses of the conflict leading up to the battle and of the battle itself. I think, there's enough scenes with Bilbo: We see and hear him trying to reason with Thorin, we see him leave Erebor late at night, we see his reaction (just his facial expression) to the battle, he has another important line "When faced with death, what can anyone do?" and he's the last person we see in the trailer.

er one second reaction shot with perplexed face, and one line of dialogue where he is referring to Thorin Problemz. .

Mrs Figg wrote:I disagree its not Bilbo's Quest, I think it is as much his as the Dwarves quest. His Quest is just as important if not MORE important. They want wealth and territory and Bilbo wants adventure and to prove himself despite his inclination to have nothing to do with danger and just ignore the Took side.

I also disagree that Bilbo is only a passive observer ...

what Bilbo decides to do DOES control events, he actually controls ALL the important events.

pissing Smaug off so much he goes and destroys Laketwon and then gets killed by Bard, Bilbo effectively kills Smaug,

The film pretty much ignores all of this in favour of Thorin as pseudo-Aragorn.

one second reaction shot with perplexed face, and one line of dialogue where he is referring to Thorin Problemz.

azriel wrote:and then we all go home to tea & scones  jam anyone ?