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Post by Eldorion Fri Aug 23, 2013 2:21 am

Ringdrotten wrote:I'm going away for a week on monday, and I'm not sure if I'll have internet or not. Probably not. See, now I've got this thread back on track Nod
Hope you have a good time wherever you vacation and/or secret army business takes you, Ringo! Very Happy
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Post by CC12 35 Fri Aug 23, 2013 2:21 am

u have to admit tho they're a little cheap on the caramel popcorn #chicagomixprobs

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Post by Orwell Fri Aug 23, 2013 2:23 am

Ha! So you are lurking around, Eldo. Very Happy 

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Post by Eldorion Fri Aug 23, 2013 2:24 am

I'm not sure if stepping away from the computer for an hour and a half to eat dinner and help wash up afterwards really counts as me "lurking". Shrugging
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Post by CC12 35 Fri Aug 23, 2013 2:32 am

APOLGIXE ORWELL

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Post by David H Fri Aug 23, 2013 2:34 am

Anybody else want caramel-corn while I'm up?
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Post by CC12 35 Fri Aug 23, 2013 2:36 am

almost suggests that they want people to think of them as thick slappers? what an outrageous thing 2 say Wink

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Post by CC12 35 Fri Aug 23, 2013 2:39 am

Chicago mix should definitely be 70% cheddar corn and 30% caramel corn

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Post by Eldorion Fri Aug 23, 2013 2:42 am

if you want beef then brick the ruckus
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Post by Orwell Fri Aug 23, 2013 2:44 am

Kooky, I have trouble imagining Mrs Figg thinking that these Ladies are to be truly and wholy blamed (except with a few exceptions as rightly alluded to by Petty in posts earlier) for the situation they find themselves in. And, yes, some - or many? -may not be the brilliant Intellects of the type that frequent Forumshire.

My point is, by calling them 'bimbos', it comes across to me more as an outburst of annoyance with them than an actual condemnation. The real problem for Mrs Figg, as I see it, is the knowledge she has of the sexist (patriarchal?) forces that consciously or sub-consciously coerce their lives.

Yes, even victims play a role in their predicament to a small or large degree btw. Sometimes I've been a bit annoyed at victims. In frustration I've sometimes thought, ''You stupid woman, don't you get it?'* How's that for a confession! But I don't do it often, I assure you. (Frustration and fatigue are usually the catalyst). I'm usually peculiarly aware of my natural human tendancy to judge. When my rational (Laughing) mind kicks in, I never blame nor condemn victims, nor make judments about their intelligence or morality. And nor does Mrs Figg, I think, even if it sometimes seems otherwise (not really, when one looks deeper into Mrs Figg's outbursts...Very Happy )  

{{{Mrs Figg, I'm getting angry now. Come back and speak for yourself! Mad}}} 



NOTE: *  Sometimes it's: 'You stupid man, don't you get it?' Most of the victims I deal with are women.


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Post by CC12 35 Fri Aug 23, 2013 2:46 am

i may withdraw my support 4 u bc i don want amarie 2 b mad :u

ive been way 2 onesided

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Post by Orwell Fri Aug 23, 2013 2:48 am

CC12 35 wrote:ive been way 2 onesided
Are you being tactful or annoying or both? Suspect 

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Post by Eldorion Fri Aug 23, 2013 2:50 am

Orwell wrote:Kooky, I have trouble imagining Mrs Figg thinking that these Ladies are to be truly and wholy blamed
You also had trouble reading her posts saying why she was leaving, so... Trollface
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Post by CC12 35 Fri Aug 23, 2013 2:52 am

i try to be as nice as possible but i don't think i was while {legitimately} defending eldo so I #apolgize 2 every1

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Post by Eldorion Fri Aug 23, 2013 2:54 am

I just try to hide what an asshole I truly am, except for moments like now when my facade breaks down. Very Happy

{{{But srsly thanks Carly I love you}}}
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Post by Orwell Fri Aug 23, 2013 2:58 am

I've read them. I don't mistake 'annoyed' outbursts as being true and accurate accounts (always) of her deeper perpectives - nor do they always seem to me be a true articulation or manifesto of who she is or what things she stands for. But, yes, at times one must read between the lines with Mrs Figgs, methinks. I find it easy enough to do... though, then again... scratch

Hey! Maybe I just get her? Very Happy  

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Post by Eldorion Fri Aug 23, 2013 3:01 am

I'm not interested in debating Mrs Figg by proxy via you.  If she wants to call me on anything when she comes back she's more than welcome to do so herself. I don't pretend that all of my posts, especially not my subjective impressions of a conversation, are always right.
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Post by Orwell Fri Aug 23, 2013 3:06 am

Pettytyrant101 wrote:and will do my best to avoid such issues in the future.- Eldo

I was with you right up till that point Eldo!
You always have two choices- stand by you words, or revise them in light of a new perspective- both are perfectly honourable positions to take.
Avoiding a topic to avoid upset is not in my view. Very anti-crabbit in principle. Mad

Orwell- Hey! With all the buckie in me half flaccid is a bloody miracle without resorting to a splint {{{ besides at least I was here to defend against the circling womenfolk Evil or Very Mad }}}
How did I miss all this? ... ... Laughing 

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Post by Orwell Fri Aug 23, 2013 3:20 am

Eldorion wrote:I'm not interested in debating Mrs Figg by proxy via you.  If she wants to call me on anything when she comes back she's more than welcome to do so herself.  I don't pretend that all of my posts, especially not my subjective impressions of a conversation, are always right.
Debate? Discuss, maybe...

I'll be frank, I don't see any problem with discusing your comments about her 'looking down' on certain women, however uncomfortable it may (or may not) be for you. And, yes, maybe enough has been said on that score. You certainly know my thoughts now. Nonetheless, one point I suddenly think I would like to add is: if you turn out to be right in your assertion that Mrs Figg does actually look down on these women, I'd be personally pretty disappointed. I trust and believe Mrs Figg is better than that. But I accept I might be wrong. If that is actually the case, then you clearly owe no apology.

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Post by Eldorion Fri Aug 23, 2013 3:22 am

Orwell wrote:...if you turn out to be right in your assertion that Mrs Figg does actually look down on these women...
I didn't assert shit.  I commented on how Mrs Figg's posts came across to me personally (and Carly has done a good of explaining why since she clearly noticed some of the same things that I did).  I don't claim to be a mind-reader and I have no fucking clue what Mrs Figg's true opinion is, much less how she would express when not in the midst of a heated discussion.

I don't appreciate all the things people are reading into a post that was only two goddamned lines long in the first place.
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Post by Orwell Fri Aug 23, 2013 3:36 am

 Are you now asserting now that the two godammed lines can't ever offend? Shocked Sorry... not asserting... um... suggesting.... mentioning...?

But I'd actually like to hear from Amarie on this. She was angered about something - but maybe it was a different tree than the one I'm barking at. scratch

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Post by Eldorion Fri Aug 23, 2013 3:38 am

No, I didn't say that. There's a lot of things that people have accused me of saying today, some of which are legitimate interpretations of my posts (even if it's not what I intended) and some of which are made from whole cloth.
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Post by Orwell Fri Aug 23, 2013 3:39 am

Eldorion wrote:You make some good points, Mrs Figg, but I feel that at least among the people in this thread, you are looking down on women who dress revealingly more than any of the men here.
You 'feel' it - not 'assert' it. Fair enough. Very Happy 


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Post by Orwell Fri Aug 23, 2013 3:39 am

Eldorion wrote:No, I didn't say that.  There's a lot of things that people have accused me of saying today, some of which are legitimate interpretations of my posts (even if it's not what I intended) and some of which are made from whole cloth.
These discussions do seem to wander all over the place. Very Happy 

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Post by Eldorion Fri Aug 23, 2013 3:41 am

Orwell wrote:You 'feel' it - not 'assert' it.  Fair enough. Very Happy 
Are you dense?  One of those is a subjective impression I got from reading the thread, the other is a concrete claim about someone else's beliefs.
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