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Post by Pettytyrant101 Thu Jun 07, 2012 11:17 pm


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Post by Orwell Thu Jun 07, 2012 11:18 pm

I'm having trouble putting vids on. Obviously one urlything managed to transport before I de-posted in fury! Shocked

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Post by Ally Thu Jun 07, 2012 11:19 pm

Orwell! Don't scare me like that! Look, I was unsure if it made sense too, but I guess there must have been an original unmixed version of the Nails version.
No, I haven't heard it.

And when did you even get that sort of power? How? Why?

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Post by Orwell Thu Jun 07, 2012 11:22 pm

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You know, Petty, I think I've realized something - I'm not a huge fan of Dylan. "It aint me, babe," is a great song, but I don't know there's a lot of others that really satisfy me. He strikes me as self-indulgent, as in "look at me, aren't I a quirky clever lyricist, deep man, deep!" - too full of artifice too often. Maybe it's just how I feel this morning. Maybe it's just his ever-present cynicism that doesn't it appeal? Suspect


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Post by Ally Thu Jun 07, 2012 11:24 pm

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Pettytyrant101 wrote:

You know, Petty, I think I've realized something - I'm not a huge fan of Dylan. "It aint me, babe," is a great song, but I don't know there's a lot of others that really satisfy me. He strikes me as self-indulgent, as in "look at me, aren't I a quirky clever lyricist, deep man, deep!" - too full of artifice too often. Maybe it's just how I feel this morning.

Barrett of course wrote a song which pretty much summed up that sentiment about Dylan up; Bob Dylan Blues. Had it on repeat after I really got into his solo stuff. Though he really liked Dylan, as I do. Razz

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Post by Orwell Thu Jun 07, 2012 11:25 pm

maybe he lacks sincerity? Shrugging

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Post by Pettytyrant101 Thu Jun 07, 2012 11:32 pm

For pure heart in lyrics I prefer Jim Morrison myself.

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Post by Mrs Figg Thu Jun 07, 2012 11:40 pm

I prefer Morrissey myself
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Post by Pettytyrant101 Thu Jun 07, 2012 11:42 pm

Time for some Smiths then Mrs Figg


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Post by Wisey Banks Thu Jun 07, 2012 11:43 pm

I find him insincere,
I fear -
Have I thereby blasphemed a God? Shocked

Sadly I find him cynical
- at the pinnacle? -
Will I now receive the Rod?

As to artifice, well aren't we all
in Free Fall
when it comes to common pretenses?

Isn't every Artist in the world
when unfurled
a mere distorter of the Senses?

Yet Bobby strums - and on his face
a placid state
shows itself - so placid!

His voice quirks along
and strong
but aint his words - at last - quite flaccid?



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Post by Pettytyrant101 Thu Jun 07, 2012 11:44 pm

oooh controversial Wisey! Yet bold and elegant!

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Post by Ally Thu Jun 07, 2012 11:45 pm

Actually not a bad film, all things considered. He had his moments- boots of spanish leather, (popped into my head because it's from the same album as hollis brown) I'd say is pretty sincere. But then again some of my favourite songs of his; Masters of War, Chimes of Freedom, Desolation Row, Tangled up in Blue I wouldn't want written any other way.

(For the record, I'm a big fan of Jim Morrison)

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Post by Orwell Thu Jun 07, 2012 11:45 pm

Cat Stevens? Poet but sincere? Shrugging And Paul Simon? imagination without the pretense? Shrugging

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Post by Pettytyrant101 Thu Jun 07, 2012 11:47 pm

How about?-


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Post by Orwell Thu Jun 07, 2012 11:48 pm

Wots happening to our vbids? Shocked

All I'm getting is a huge !

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Post by Pettytyrant101 Thu Jun 07, 2012 11:48 pm

I see vids! scratch (only not now cause this post is on a new page Mad ) Are you sure you are not just looking down when you see a big !?


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Post by Ally Thu Jun 07, 2012 11:49 pm

Also, guys, are we just letting Orwell edit our posts now and it's all okay what's up with that? Suspect

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Post by Pettytyrant101 Thu Jun 07, 2012 11:50 pm

Um what did he edit? He is a devil you know.

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Post by Orwell Thu Jun 07, 2012 11:56 pm

Ally wrote: Actually not a bad film, all things considered. He had his moments- boots of spanish leather, (popped into my head because it's from the same album as hollis brown) I'd say is pretty sincere. But then again some of my favourite songs of his; Masters of War, Chimes of Freedom, Desolation Row, Tangled up in Blue I wouldn't want written any other way.

(For the record, I'm a big fan of Jim Morrison)

Maybe it's just how he does "theatre" (peformance)-- the 'acting' part. I don't doubt his gifts as a poet/lyricist per se. Others perform their songs with full respect to their songs. He seems to hang shit on his own songs (by his interprations of them performance-wise) too often, and therefore he seems over-cynical to his audience. Mind you, fans like his attitude. It's just not one I care for. Other Artists seem to respect their fans and try not to be High and Mighty and Contemptuous.


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Post by Pettytyrant101 Thu Jun 07, 2012 11:56 pm

Its a bit boybandy for my tastes Norc, although they seem musically better than the average boyband. I would hazard a guess that were I teenage girl rather than a drunken old scotshobbit I would like it more (and get more dates).

Orwell the Sex Pistols never respected their audeience but I still like them- it can be pulled off, its all in what sort of attitude its conveyed I suppose.


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Post by Norc Thu Jun 07, 2012 11:59 pm

Pettytyrant101 wrote:Its a bit boybandy for my tastes Norc, although they seem musically better than the average boyband. I would hazard a guess that were I teenage girl rather than a drunken old scotshobbit I would like it more (and get more dates).

are you refering to the first one or the last one I posted? (because the last one is a joke) and the first one is just one person and it's not boyband, it's soul. do your research.
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Post by Pettytyrant101 Fri Jun 08, 2012 12:00 am

The last one- you know the one with the boy band in it. :facepalm:

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Post by Orwell Fri Jun 08, 2012 12:03 am

Pettytyrant101 wrote:Orwell the Sex Pistols never respected their audeience but I still like them- it can be pulled off, its all in what sort of attitude its conveyed I suppose.


The Sex Pistols were cynical through and through. It's what they were. Dylan puts on an artificial air of, "I'm a poet, made cynical by life, alas!" But he also seems to hold his fans (and other humans) in a kind of contempt, which is cynicism as well, but not the type I care for as I said above. If he was a true Cynic and Great Soul, he'd give away his money and turn his back on poetry, like Jesus did. There is Cynicism of a Philosophical Humane sort, and there is a nasty kind of cynicism, which you can make money from - just ask Bobby! Nod



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Post by Norc Fri Jun 08, 2012 12:04 am

Pettytyrant101 wrote:The last one- you know the one with the boy band in it. :facepalm:

i did not post any boyband! to be a boy band you need more boys!
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