Re: US Presidential Election 2012

by **Orwell** Wed Aug 29, 2012 7:11 am

.... beer... Laughing

by Pettytyrant101 Thu Aug 30, 2012 1:55 am

I dont know what to say to this. If this is the Republican party god help you lot if they get in.

by Eldorion Thu Aug 30, 2012 2:42 am

I was pretty offended by that video as well but from further reading it appears that the chanting was actually caused by Ron Paul supporters who had an issue with RNC leadership rather than anti-Hispanic sentiment. That doesn't change how it comes off, though, and it's still ridiculous. You can tell from the look on the RNC chairman's face that he's wondering how he's expected to win an election with people like that.

Elsewhere on the racism front, however...

RNC Attendee Allegedly Threw Nuts At Black CNN Camerawoman, Said ‘This Is How We Feed Animals’ - TPM

by Pettytyrant101 Thu Aug 30, 2012 2:54 am

It certainly doesnt look good on the video- particularly as the Chairman seems to be give the impression he thinks because of race, as he twice pointedly mentions she is puerto recan and it sounds like the crowd respond again when he says it.
But there may well be more to it than it seems as you say.

As to the peanuts thing. If you tap into certain stereotypes, as the Republicans do, and appeal to a certain mindset and appeal to their prejudices just to secure their vote this is to be expected. Its no more suprisingly sadly than the woman at McCains rally who insited Obama was an a arab.

by the truth Thu Aug 30, 2012 2:56 am

Just think how bad that scene could have been had Petty been serving up Buckie at the place & Petty I not even God can help us if we are to lazy to help ourselves , the US elections have become a joke we basically are trading one snake for another .

by Pettytyrant101 Thu Aug 30, 2012 3:05 am

Buckie would have helped sort it. Nod

You get drunk, agree with everyone, get more drunk, disagree, get in a big rammy (mass fight) wake up in a cell or in hospital.
Next time you get together you get drunk, agree, sort it all out so you can go and have a swally (mass drink) together. Much better. drunken

by the truth Thu Aug 30, 2012 3:12 am

the political situation in the US is quite depressing Petty

by Eldorion Thu Aug 30, 2012 9:33 pm

You know the Republican Party has sunk to a new low when Fox News accuses their VP candidate of setting the world record for lying in a political speech. Laughing

http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2012/08/30/paul-ryans-speech-in-three-words/

The money shot, followed by a detailed breakdown at the link:

On the other hand, to anyone paying the slightest bit of attention to facts, Ryan’s speech was an apparent attempt to set the world record for the greatest number of blatant lies and misrepresentations slipped into a single political speech. On this measure, while it was Romney who ran the Olympics, Ryan earned the gold.

by David H Thu Aug 30, 2012 10:19 pm

Oh, I'm really starting to look forward to the debates! Twisted Evil

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by halfwise Thu Aug 30, 2012 10:30 pm

I wonder how long Fox will allow her to be a news contributor?

by halfwise Thu Aug 30, 2012 10:33 pm

David H wrote:Oh, I'm really starting to look forward to the debates!

The presidential debates will be predictable, it's the vice presidential debates that will see me setting up the ice chest next to the recliner. What a Face

by Eldorion Thu Aug 30, 2012 10:35 pm

She describes herself as a "progressive voice on Fox" on her Twitter page so perhaps this is not out of character for her. A quick scan of her recent articles shows a distinctly un-Fox style.

http://www.foxnews.com/archive/author/sally-kohn/index.html

Sally Kohn Archive

Paul Ryan's speech in 3 words
Published August 30, 2012
Paul Ryan's speech was three things: dazzling, deceiving and distracting.

Republicans should be careful what they wish for with Paul Ryan on the ticket
Published August 14, 2012
While the conservative base may be thrilled with Mitt Romney's choice of Paul Ryan as his running mate and at the prospect of gutting government to fund more tax breaks for billionaires and oil companies, ordinary Americans are not.

Obama's right, Americans can't succeed without government
Published July 17, 2012
President Obama's comments about business have been taken out of context. The president was clear: We succeed because of our individual initiative but also because of the public investments that help springboard that success.

Chief Justice Roberts does the right thing on ObamaCare
Published June 28, 2012
The Supreme Court has upheld ObamaCare. America, sometimes justice manages to be blind to politics and sometimes, just sometimes, even conservatives on the Court realize that we have a federal government for good reason.

It's time we start sharing the American Dream
Published June 18, 2012
I am proud of America. President Obama did the right thing providing a path to citizenship for America’s undocumented immigrants.

by Eldorion Thu Aug 30, 2012 10:37 pm

I agree about the debates. I've been looking forward to the Biden/Ryan debate as well but now I can't wait. Very Happy

I hope Romney will say or do something outrageous but he seems too robotic for that to happen. Neutral

by **Orwell** Thu Aug 30, 2012 11:59 pm

Does Ryan think Romney is a Christian? Shocked

by Eldorion Fri Aug 31, 2012 12:53 am

That's an interesting question that we will probably never know the answer to. Razz

...Unless Ryan made an unguarded comment about Mormons in the past. study

Edit: durr, I can type the words I mean to. Rolling Eyes

by **Orwell** Fri Aug 31, 2012 1:25 am

Are Mormons Christians? Surely someone can answer that question! Shrugging

by David H Fri Aug 31, 2012 1:55 am

I think most Christians recognize The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints as Christian, but many have strong doctrinal differences. The word "cult" gets trotted out from time to time, but much less than it used to.

by **Orwell** Fri Aug 31, 2012 3:04 am

So long as all Christians (and Muslims and Hindus and Buddhists) get to Heaven, then I guess they all can sleep at night. Very Happy

by the truth Fri Aug 31, 2012 3:18 am

The Mormon Religion is one of the fastest growing religions today,imagine that !

by Eldorion Fri Aug 31, 2012 3:31 am

Mormons, Jehovah's Witnesses, and Unitarians are all in a strange sort of grey area. Many evangelical Christians don't acknowledge them as true Christians, but to be fair, plenty of evangelicals don't consider Catholics to be Christian either. I think Dave is right that such attitudes are considerably less common now than they were, say, 30 years ago, though.

by David H Fri Aug 31, 2012 6:05 am

The highlight of the Republican Convention Very Happy

by leelee Fri Aug 31, 2012 6:39 am

I think it is a fearful thing to be swept away by personality. Many evil things are done that way and in the frenzy no one even notices. It reminds me of the horror of one of the trilogy of the 'planet' books by C.S. Lewis. A great personality or two ended up taking over a university town and it led to such terror and unbelievable horror for the citizens. I would rather not even think about a party but the candidate. Here in British Columbia, when we elect someone we really could care less about the party so much as the candidate. We try to find out all the good bad and ugly and go from there. And if elected they had better do as they said. We voted out our premier in the middle of a term because we felt he was not fulfilling his promises and we voted out the hst. America is such a great great nation. I just want every person of voting age to think seriously like our Eldo and research and do what ever is necessary to keep America free, prosperous and strong.

by Eldorion Fri Aug 31, 2012 6:55 am

I think they should make the both nominees go to the other party's convention instead of their own. Would make things a lot more interesting. Very Happy

by David H Fri Aug 31, 2012 6:58 am

In Washington State we don't vote by parties for State elections. In the primary elections the top two candidates advance to the general election regardless of party. They can both be Democrat, both be Republican, or any independent party. The theory is exactly what you're saying, Leelee.

The choice is supposed between the best two people, not a contest between two parties. Then when the officials get into office they don't owe a significant debt to the party for putting them there. Instead their obligation is directly to the people.

I'm afraid our national elections have gotten pretty silly though.....

by Eldorion Fri Aug 31, 2012 7:04 am

Hooooly shit just watched a bit further in the Clint Eastwood video. Laughing

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