Is God evil - or just lazy?

Lorient Avandi wrote:I never said they were bloody pedophiles, all I said was that pedophiles also claim to be born that way. Does that always make it right? To just be born that way? From what I have read about him Ted Bundy was supposedly born the way he was. Before you say anything about that last statement, I was making an observation. I am NOT saying gays are serial killers OR pedophiles. It was merely an observation ok?

Orwell's just giving you a hard time, man. He does it to everyone so don't take it (or him) seriously.

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"I wouldn't mistake you for a "gay" lover, Lorient. I don't doubt you at all. "
Ahh, thanks Orwell. I knew you'd understand.

"But what about God's opinion, Petty?"- Orwell

Sod him. He's a homophobic bigot.

If He wants a say He can make a post!

Eldorion wrote:

Lorient Avandi wrote:I never said they were bloody pedophiles, all I said was that pedophiles also claim to be born that way. Does that always make it right? To just be born that way? From what I have read about him Ted Bundy was supposedly born the way he was. Before you say anything about that last statement, I was making an observation. I am NOT saying gays are serial killers OR pedophiles. It was merely an observation ok?

Orwell's just giving you a hard time, man. He does it to everyone so don't take it (or him) seriously.

{{{{{Oooh, that comment in parentheses is going to follow me for a while. }}}}}

Me? What did I do? I didn't call Lorient anything. I've been the only one herer supporting his views (after a fashion). Free speech is the loser here. Don't be frightened off, Lorient! Don't let them rouse you.

And you, Eldo, stop causing trouble, It's the likes of you (and Petty) that Lorient is cross with.

Pettytyrant101 wrote:"But what about God's opinion, Petty?"- Orwell

Sod him. He's a homophobic bigot.

If He wants a say He can make a post!

You'll never be God's friend with an attitude like that.

Anyway Im done wih that subject. As for what we were talking about earlier: I believe that the Nephites and Lamanites lived in central America for the most part. It was only near the end of the BoM that they moved elsewhere, at least thats what I heard. A lot of those civilizations were gone long before explorersgot there, we just tagged names onto several of the cultures and made a bunch of assumptions.

If there is a God on the balance of evidence I reckon He must have a sens eo fhumour- a dark one granted but still.

Lorient do you have any more info on these peole, where in Central America for example? Or which misnamed peoples you think might be associated with them? It would give an easier start point for researching the matter as the history of the Mormon Curch is something I am only vaguely aware of in outline.

I've got to pick up my son (who my wife and I had together within the sanctity of Holy marriage). I hope you guys aren't in bed before I get back. This is an important issue!

(Keep up a stiff resistance whilst I'm gone, Lorient, don't let them hector you into silence).

Sorry I just have heard a few rumors and seen a few maps. I could see about getting you a copy of the BoM though Petty if you would like one. It never really gives specifics as to where they are. I'm not sure yet if we do know for sure if they were down there or if we are guessing.I could try and find a bit more info for you but im not sure if i will be able to.

If you had your son with your wife in a state of holy marriage how come you are the one who has to go pick him up all the time eh? Do I hear the sound of a whip being cracked in the backgroud Orwell? (And whats wrong with the lads legs or don't Australian hobbits walk anywhere -if your not careful you will end up like American hobbits!)

More info would be useful Lorient- anything you think pertinent.

Sorry petty. I can't find anything about their location. I found it could have been somewhere in either the Great Lakes area, South America, or Mesoamerica. Those are the main ones but i don't think anyone really has any idea. Those places are all so far apart from eachother it sounds crazy. Sometimes our prophets may receive revolation on this sort of thing but I don't think that will happen anytime soon. I would really like to help but the only thing I can recommend is getting your own Book of Mormon. If you have a smart phone it is a free app. And they may have a copy on the internet somewhere but other than that you would have to get the actual book. It is much smaller than the bible.

Say what you like about Mormons, but they know how to make their e-texts.

http://lds.org/scriptures/bofm?lang=eng

Thanks Eldo shall give it a read as time permits and post my thoughts and whatever research throws up on the matter.

No matter what you hear, we are NOT polygamists.

Nice signature eldo, just noticed it.

God changed his mind on that one back in the 19th century, right? And black people in the 1970s? Hey, God isn't a rigidly dogmatic conservative after all! He's progressive ... just slightly less progressive than U.S. laws on tax-exemption.

(Please don't take this personally Lorient! )

Lorient Avandi wrote:Nice signature eldo, just noticed it.

Thanks! I just changed it today since I'm easing out of my HP phase.

Shame ploygamy always seemed one of the benfits to such a religion if you ask me. Although twice the nagging (or more) might not be so good after all.
God is probably very progressive, just the Churches are a bit slow! Can't imagine He'd make a universe in 6 days unless He is a spur of the moment sort of a guy.

Yea that's about right. It's hard to explain why it took so long to do it all.

Well lets face it it does look a bit of a rush job- he even left holes in th efabric of it all over space, sloppy really. And time doesn;t work properly either- it goes all wibbly if you move to fast whats that about?

Cleary God wants people who "live fast, die young" to have a little extra time.

Listen to this take on the 6 day creation. Let me know what youguys think. Since he's god maybe whn hes referring to "days" maybe that means something actually much longer. I mean, hes an immortal god right? Why does he need to go by our time. Maybe the "6 day creation" actually took several million, or even billion, earth-years?

Also, I've been wanting to address whoever made that comment about jesus turning water into wine. It may not have been fermented or aged. When they referred to wine in those days they were actually just referring to grape juice. Be it fermented or not. And who knows exactly how long the gap was between Adam a d Moses, people in those days, according to the bible, lived several hundred years, sometimes almost 1000 years. So the gap could have been very large, and then you had the Floodd that killed everyone but Noah and his family, so another large repopulation gap.

Well I'm going to go to bed. See ya guys.

Night Lorient.
On the point of lifespans in the OT it could be dynasties- much in the same way the Plantaginents or the Tudors were actually several generations with an inherited name.