LotR Prequel: Helm Hammerhand and the Battles of Rohan

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Post by Lancebloke Mon Feb 27, 2023 5:23 pm

Is this the thread to talk about the "many more LotR" films that are supposed to be coming or is there another?
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Post by halfwise Mon Feb 27, 2023 5:44 pm

There isn't another. I parked my post here because WB is also doing Helm Hammerhand, so they are sorta tied up together.

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Post by Forest Shepherd Mon Mar 06, 2023 9:09 am

There was a bit of a spazz-out elsewhere when the announcement was made. But this was really just a re-upping of the contracts. Nothing to write home about.

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Post by chris63 Wed Apr 12, 2023 3:35 am

Any clips anywhere for this movie yet? Seems to have gone very quiet.

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Post by Forest Shepherd Wed Apr 12, 2023 6:55 am

It comes out in one year's time, tomorrow, so that leaves some time for clips and trailers to be released.

I gotta say though, I'm not excited for it at all. Helm's daughter being elevated from a potential bride for the character of Wulf to someone who "helps defend her people" is one thing, but I also dislike the casting of Brian Cox as Helm. He's not a good guy, in his roles, he doesn't fit that type. So to have a man who usually plays villains as the titular lead is probably going to taint my enjoyment of the rest of it.

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Post by halfwise Wed Apr 12, 2023 12:53 pm

I'm not sure I'd describe Helm Hammerhand as a good guy. He's pretty dark; killed the leader of the Dunlanders with his fist for daring to suggest that he offer up his daughter for marriage, stalked the camps at night killing people, etc.

Brian Cox is a Shakespearean actor first of all. Known for playing King Lear, etc. I think the role suits him.

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Post by halfwise Wed Jun 14, 2023 10:01 pm

turns out Phillipa Boyens is THE guiding hand of the upcoming War of the Rohirrim. I'll say no more.


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Post by Pettytyrant101 Thu Jun 15, 2023 12:41 pm

{{ Well as I dont have a ton of faith in Boyens ability to write in Tolkiens style I'll keep my crabbit at the ready for this. A lot will depend on how they use their invented lead Hera, yes technically she exists in Tolkien as 'daughter' but thats about all we get, so how they show her, as a woman of her time and Tolkiens world, or more likely and unfortunately as a woman of our time and our world uncomfortably showhorned into Tolkiens world.
There is a tiny bit of hope in them saying they looked to Æthelflæd, the Anglo-Saxon Lady who ruled over what was Mercia. She played a crucial role in the overthrow of the Danelaw and in her later years when ill health prevented her taking a more active role she effectively administred and ran the new kingdom. Thing about her was, the thing she is especially noted for, is just what an exception to the norms of the time she was. One shouldnt get the impression she was in any way typical of Anglo-Saxon women, even important ones, she wasnt, she was like Boudica, or Elizabeth I, unique in her time. }}

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Post by malickfan Wed Jun 21, 2023 8:03 pm

https://variety.com/2023/film/global/embracer-group-paid-395-million-for-lord-of-the-rings-rights-1235650495/

Something of a bargain, considering Disney paid $4 billion for Star Wars etc...

I'm guessing there's various other projects already deep in pre-production, I've deliberately avoided any news about the Helm Hammerhead film, but it sounds like it could be visually interesting at least...

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Post by malickfan Wed Jun 21, 2023 8:08 pm

I'm not really sure if I consider this an adaptation of Tolkien's work, rather than fan fiction that happens to share a few names, it's been some years since I really delved into the appendices but IIRC much of the lore/history of Rohan is in Unfinished Tales (which they don't have the rights to)? the 'source material' is probably even thinner than for ROP so I'm just going to treat it as its own thing, glad to see a different visual take on Middle-earth at least.

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Post by chris63 Fri Aug 25, 2023 3:52 am

https://www-comingsoon-net.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/www.comingsoon.net/movies/news/1326499-lord-of-the-rings-the-war-of-the-rohirrim-release-date?amp=&amp_gsa=1&amp_js_v=a9&usqp=mq331AQIUAKwASCAAgM%3D#amp_tf=From%20%251%24s&aoh=16929318232260&referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&ampshare=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.comingsoon.net%2Fmovies%2Fnews%2F1326499-lord-of-the-rings-the-war-of-the-rohirrim-release-date

Release date delayed till December 2024.

That's not good 😞

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Post by halfwise Fri Aug 25, 2023 12:15 pm

I'm guessing they did some test screenings, got a bad reaction and are doing a major revamp.  Throwing in a final act Oliphaunt chase or something.  The love story between  a Dunlander and an Orc needs rewriting to feel more uplifting.  To heighten audience connection they've shoe-horned in a few Legolas scenes.  Useful chaps, elves.

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