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Post by halfwise Thu Jun 10, 2021 8:51 pm

https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/lord-rings-getting-anime-prequel-191744969.html

Hmm...I'm cool with this except I don't understand why Philipa Boyens is a consultant.

I suppose they already had the rights to the appendices so they didn't have to pay through the nose to the Tolkien estate.  We may yet see The Young Aragorn Chronicles.

Slightly more detail here: https://deadline.com/2021/06/lord-of-the-rings-anime-film-the-war-of-the-rohirrim-new-line-1234773024/

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Post by chris63 Fri Jun 11, 2021 1:29 am

Just read this on Twitter. Sounds interesting.

Lord of Rings anime from New Line announced, Philippa Boyens attached
by Justin Sewell
New Line Cinema and Warner Bros animation announce a new animation project LORD OF THE RINGS: THE WAR OF THE ROHIRRIM from the director of Ghost in the Shell, with film Philippa Boyens attached to consult on the project.

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Post by halfwise Fri Jun 11, 2021 12:30 pm

So here's a question. Anime of course is a Japanese style of animation, but is it a specific technique that makes it anime, or is it just a drawing style? I'm wondering if it's just the Japanese director doing the guide drawings that makes it anime.

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Post by chris63 Fri Jun 11, 2021 2:30 pm

I don't like it. Never watch it. Untill this comes out of course.

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Post by chris63 Fri Jun 11, 2021 2:40 pm

Eowyn

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Post by halfwise Fri Jun 11, 2021 3:20 pm

It's adorable when applied to young women, but what will Helm Hammerhand look like? silent

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Post by halfwise Fri Jun 11, 2021 3:24 pm

Okay, this is too damn funny (by Noe Izumi if I got that right)

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(Now I'm imagining her facing off the Witch King, who also has great big eyes Laughing  We'll have to get Norc to start imaging characters for us.)

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Post by Pettytyrant101 Fri Jun 11, 2021 9:08 pm

{{ Why would Eowyn be in a film about Helm? Suspect They going to shoehorn her in as the person telling the story or some such gimmick to get a recognisable name in there? Or because its another all male story otherwise which Hollywood hates? Also the blurb says it will delve into the untold story of the fortress, but Helm didnt build it he just retreated there, not that different from what happens in LotR's. All that happens of note regarding the fortress is afterwards they change its name to Helm's Deep. So by 'untold story of the fortress' they just mean, why it got a name change?
Mind you my crabbit senses tingle at the mere mention of Boyens the 'Tolkien expert' Mad }}

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Post by halfwise Fri Jun 11, 2021 9:30 pm

No, they aren't doing Eowyn, Chris just dug her up as an example of LotR anime. Then it becomes difficult not to run with it.

- Would an anime Gollum look any different?
- Will the orcses be wearing "Hello Kitty" armor?
- Can't wait to see what they'd do with hobbits.

But the crowning achievement will have to be Helm himself. Because when you think "anime" you immediately think "Helm Hammerhand". It's a miracle it took them so long.

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Post by Eldy Sat Jun 12, 2021 12:08 am

halfwise wrote:So here's a question.  Anime of course is a Japanese style of animation, but is it a specific technique that makes it anime, or is it just a drawing style?  I'm wondering if it's just the Japanese director doing the guide drawings that makes it anime.

So, "what is anime?" is a fairly common debate in Western anime fandom. Razz Etymologically, it's just a shortening of アニメーション animeeshon, which is the Japanese loanword form of animation. In Japan, thus, the term anime is applied to all kinds of animation. In the West, the traditional definition is "animation from Japan" (similar to how sake, which in Japanese refers to alcoholic beverages in general, is used in the West to refer to a particular drink with the native name nihonshu, lit. "Japanese alcoholic drink"). However, with the increasing influence of anime on Western animation since at least the early 2000s, some people use the term to refer to all animation produced in "the anime style," regardless of its country of origin. The problem with this is that there isn't a single "anime style." Japanese animation has just as much of diversity of styles as we see in the West. There are certain common, stereotypical elements, like giant eyes—something the Japanese picked up from old school Disney films—but these are far from universal.

In this case, The War of the Rohirrim can plausibly be described as anime since it has a Japanese director, Kenji Kamiyama, and presumably will have some other Japanese staff as well, despite being a production for an American studio. [ETA: The entire animation unit will be based in Japan (source).] I imagine it will be produced in a style that animation fans can be expected to recognize as "anime" or at least "animesque," but that's admittedly speculation on my part.

halfwise wrote:It's adorable when applied to young women, but what will Helm Hammerhand look like? silent

I have no idea, but here are some characters from some of Kamiyama's previous works (though the first was based on a manga, so the character designs are derived from the original work).

Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex

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Moribito: Guardian of the Spirit

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Eden of the East

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Post by halfwise Sat Jun 12, 2021 12:17 am

Only slightly enlarged eyes. I'm somewhat disappointed. It seems he's been picked for his competence rather than his style. I SO wanted to see a mouse-eyed Helm.

It never occurred to me that the anime style came from Disney, transferred from animals to people. That's such a delightful thought.

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Post by Forest Shepherd Thu Jun 17, 2021 2:57 am

What the fuck is a mouse-eyed Helm?

I was gonna post something about what anime is, but of course I was beat to it by our resident anime and definition specialist haha.

Frame-rate is a significant factor. When I see the 16 or whatever frames per second in an animated work, I immediately think "anime".

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Post by halfwise Thu Jun 17, 2021 3:22 am

Thought you were on a spam run, but it was just a tipsy tear.

Um, if the anime eyes come from Disney, the Disney style is rooted in Mickey. So blend Mickey and Helm and you've got an anime Helm.

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