LotR Prequel: Helm Hammerhand and the Battles of Rohan

{{ Joking aside, if they had used it solely for dwarves from a particular area, and didn't attach any other Scottish culture to it, then yeah a Scots accent from a particular region of Scotland would work fine, for say Lonely Mt dwarves. Fili and Kili however, who grew up in the Blue Mts should have completely different accents I think doing that sort of thing in casting would help subconciously sell the scale and differences in areas.

By the same token Legolas should not sound like Galadriel or Elrond, personally I'd reserve Finnish and Welsh accents for the elves. }}

Finnish and Welsh would have been way cool, as would a distinct difference between Bree and the Shire, though mind you Americans wouldn't be as cued to it as the Brits, so it can't be a subtle difference - it would have to clash pretty strongly.

{{ North Yorkshire (think Sean Bean) and the Black Country (see above vid for that) are very distinct from one another. I think even Americans would notice, its like the difference between New York and Texas. }}

{{ Ok think Im out on this adaptation too. Why did no one mention Phillipa Boyens is the executive producer and co-writer?!   What has she not done enough harm already to Tolkien that she needs a second go?!!! }}

I didn't know she was executive producer. Hoped she was just a consultant. Too bad, with Amazon's series going belly up this was our last hope.

{{ And co-writer- thats even worse! Ive got a spot on my arse is a better Tolkien expert than she claims to be. }}

I like that they have John Howe and Alan Lee. Philipa Boyens isn't writing for them, but her daughter is (!). We'll see. I like the look of it. It seems the link to Harad may have some backing in Lore.

{{ Im not convinced by the logistics of moving a Mumakil on a ship from Harad to Rohan. pretty sure if they'd used mumakil Tolkien would probably have mentioned it.
And much as Ive always enjoyed the work of Lee and Howe Im getting bit fed up that every version we see of Tolkien is based on PJ films look which were often utterly, completely, visually wrong!!! Rohan still looks like a cold, miserable desolate place. }}

halfwise wrote:https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/lord-rings-getting-anime-prequel-191744969.html

Hmm...I'm cool with this except I don't understand why Philipa Boyens is a consultant.

I suppose they already had the rights to the appendices so they didn't have to pay through the nose to the Tolkien estate.  We may yet see The Young Aragorn Chronicles.

Slightly more detail here: https://deadline.com/2021/06/lord-of-the-rings-anime-film-the-war-of-the-rohirrim-new-line-1234773024/

I would love to see all of UT make it into a movie/show at some point.

The story of Galadriel and Celeborn would have to be done in some sort of Rashomon approach.

halfwise wrote: The story of Galadriel and Celeborn would have to be done in some sort of Rashomon approach.

Not if I'm writin' it  

My approach:


A) Author Published Text (includes Galadriel banned for helping lead the Noldor to Middle-earth, where she ultimately marries the Sinda Celeborn)

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B) 1977 Constructed Silmarillion*

*1977 Silmarillion basically equals early 1950s Quenta Silmarillion, which I think fits well enough with A.


Granted, the Second Age can get tricky

BREAKING: Miranda Otto RETURNS to Middle- earth and will reprise her role as Éowyn, Shieldmaiden of Rohan, and serves as the tale’s narrator.

Via @DEADLINE https://t.co/c3dYhVTYQ9

Um....okay. I don't see that this should need much narration except for some history at the beginning.

BREAKING: Brian Cox will voice the King of Rohan in ‘THE LORD OF THE RINGS: THE WAR OF THE ROHIRRIM’ anime film. https://t.co/6O3kWBS5vv

Thought they meant Brian Cox the science guy.

chris63 wrote:BREAKING: Miranda Otto RETURNS to Middle- earth and will reprise her role as Éowyn, Shieldmaiden of Rohan, and serves as the tale’s narrator.

Via @DEADLINE https://t.co/c3dYhVTYQ9

Damnit, can we ever get away from Jackson?

I don't see anyway of bringing Saruman into the story since he didn't take up residence in Isengard until a generation later.

{{ So this is just more fan fiction then from the blurb?

'Hera, the daughter of Helm, must summon the will to lead the resistance against a deadly enemy..'

Except he didnt have a daughter called Hera (which is Greek!!!!) he had sons and an unnamed daughter- who presumably didnt have anything hugely pivotal to do as history doesnt even record her name. But cant have men being heroes in Tolkiens world and fighting all the battles! No just invent a badass Xena warior women to take their place. God forbid Helm was to be the main character in his own story. }}

I was trying to see whether Hera is also a Norse name--I believe it is accepted by the Icelandic authorities for example--but I think it is actually just a borrowing from Greek.

I figure this is as good a place as any to discuss the upcoming WB work, as they are already doing War of the Rohirrim. The first 5 minutes of this vid actually has some tidbits I was not aware of, like the awful love triangle in the Nobbit was actually mandated by the studio.

{{ If they only have the same rights as Amazon they will run into many of the same issues. And unless they get a licence to do something thats pretty fleshed out like Children of Hurin, or Beren and Luthien, you lack a lot of detail and dialogue and descriptions of places if all youve got are essentially the cliff notes or just dates and events to go from. Its back to having to invent a lot, and worse avoid where Tolkien did flesh it out using any of his stuff if its outside the terms of what can be used, ending up like Amazons series which completely contradicts what we do know happened. }}

The angmar wars would avoid any such conflicts, though not well fleshed out. At some point I think we'll see a Young Aragorn Chronicles.

{{ Eru save us! I hope not. }}