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Post by Pettytyrant101 Tue Feb 15, 2022 5:01 pm

{{ Mad Joking aside, if they had used it solely for dwarves from a particular area, and didn't attach any other Scottish culture to it, then yeah a Scots accent from a particular region of Scotland would work fine, for say Lonely Mt dwarves. Fili and Kili however, who grew up in the Blue Mts should have completely different accents I think doing that sort of thing in casting would help subconciously sell the scale and differences in areas.

By the same token Legolas should not sound like Galadriel or Elrond, personally I'd reserve Finnish and Welsh accents for the elves. }}

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Post by halfwise Tue Feb 15, 2022 5:05 pm

Finnish and Welsh would have been way cool, as would a distinct difference between Bree and the Shire, though mind you Americans wouldn't be as cued to it as the Brits, so it can't be a subtle difference - it would have to clash pretty strongly.

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Post by Pettytyrant101 Tue Feb 15, 2022 5:11 pm

{{ North Yorkshire (think Sean Bean) and the Black Country (see above vid for that) are very distinct from one another. I think even Americans would notice, its like the difference between New York and Texas. }}

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Post by Pettytyrant101 Sat Feb 19, 2022 10:58 pm

{{ Ok think Im out on this adaptation too. Why did no one mention Phillipa Boyens is the executive producer and co-writer?!  Mad What has she not done enough harm already to Tolkien that she needs a second go?!!! }}

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Post by halfwise Sat Feb 19, 2022 11:33 pm

I didn't know she was executive producer. Hoped she was just a consultant. Too bad, with Amazon's series going belly up this was our last hope.

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Post by Pettytyrant101 Sun Feb 20, 2022 12:40 am

{{ And co-writer- thats even worse! Mad Ive got a spot on my arse is a better Tolkien expert than she claims to be. }}

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Post by halfwise Mon Feb 21, 2022 11:08 am

I like that they have John Howe and Alan Lee. Philipa Boyens isn't writing for them, but her daughter is (!). We'll see. I like the look of it. It seems the link to Harad may have some backing in Lore.

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Post by Pettytyrant101 Mon Feb 21, 2022 7:44 pm

{{ Im not convinced by the logistics of moving a Mumakil on a ship from Harad to Rohan. pretty sure if they'd used mumakil Tolkien would probably have mentioned it.
And much as Ive always enjoyed the work of Lee and Howe Im getting bit fed up that every version we see of Tolkien is based on PJ films look which were often utterly, completely, visually wrong!!! Evil or Very Mad Rohan still looks like a cold, miserable desolate place. Evil or Very Mad }}

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Post by bilbobaggins Thu Feb 24, 2022 2:13 am

halfwise wrote:https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/lord-rings-getting-anime-prequel-191744969.html

Hmm...I'm cool with this except I don't understand why Philipa Boyens is a consultant.

I suppose they already had the rights to the appendices so they didn't have to pay through the nose to the Tolkien estate.  We may yet see The Young Aragorn Chronicles.

Slightly more detail here: https://deadline.com/2021/06/lord-of-the-rings-anime-film-the-war-of-the-rohirrim-new-line-1234773024/

I would love to see all of UT make it into a movie/show at some point.

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Post by halfwise Thu Feb 24, 2022 2:22 am

The story of Galadriel and Celeborn would have to be done in some sort of Rashomon approach. Razz

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Post by Elthir Thu Feb 24, 2022 3:08 pm

halfwise wrote: The story of Galadriel and Celeborn would have to be done in some sort of Rashomon approach. Razz

Not if I'm writin' it pirat  

My approach:


A) Author Published Text (includes Galadriel banned for helping lead the Noldor to Middle-earth, where she ultimately marries the Sinda Celeborn)

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B) 1977 Constructed Silmarillion*

*1977 Silmarillion basically equals early 1950s Quenta Silmarillion, which I think fits well enough with A.


Granted, the Second Age can get tricky Wink

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Post by chris63 Wed Jun 15, 2022 3:09 pm

🚨BREAKING: Miranda Otto RETURNS to Middle- earth and will reprise her role as Éowyn, Shieldmaiden of Rohan, and serves as the tale’s narrator.

Via @DEADLINE https://t.co/c3dYhVTYQ9

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Post by halfwise Wed Jun 15, 2022 3:13 pm

Um....okay. I don't see that this should need much narration except for some history at the beginning.

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Post by chris63 Wed Jun 15, 2022 3:18 pm

🚨BREAKING: Brian Cox will voice the King of Rohan in ‘THE LORD OF THE RINGS: THE WAR OF THE ROHIRRIM’ anime film. https://t.co/6O3kWBS5vv

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Post by chris63 Wed Jun 15, 2022 3:20 pm

Thought they meant Brian Cox the science guy. 🤣

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Post by Forest Shepherd Wed Jun 15, 2022 8:06 pm

chris63 wrote:🚨BREAKING: Miranda Otto RETURNS to Middle- earth and will reprise her role as Éowyn, Shieldmaiden of Rohan, and serves as the tale’s narrator.

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Post by halfwise Wed Jun 22, 2022 8:04 pm

I don't see anyway of bringing Saruman into the story since he didn't take up residence in Isengard until a generation later.

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Post by Pettytyrant101 Sat Jun 25, 2022 12:11 am

{{ So this is just more fan fiction then from the blurb?

'Hera, the daughter of Helm, must summon the will to lead the resistance against a deadly enemy..'

Except he didnt have a daughter called Hera (which is Greek!!!!) he had sons and an unnamed daughter- who presumably didnt have anything hugely pivotal to do as history doesnt even record her name. But cant have men being heroes in Tolkiens world and fighting all the battles! No just invent a badass Xena warior women to take their place. God forbid Helm was to be the main character in his own story. Mad }}

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Post by Forest Shepherd Sat Jun 25, 2022 4:40 am

I was trying to see whether Hera is also a Norse name--I believe it is accepted by the Icelandic authorities for example--but I think it is actually just a borrowing from Greek.

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