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Post by Lancebloke Wed Nov 09, 2022 4:09 pm

Petty - i think that is a big part of the problem. Very rarely is there a big enough majority of control for things to really get done and that is without all of the shenanigans that go on to stop things even when they have a majority of agreement.

2 years is not enough time sometimes to even get things agreed let alone implement and let alone feel the effects. I think that basically creates a complete disconnect between 'the will of the people' versus what actually happens.

It happens in many places but I think 2 party systems are particularly impacted. And then all of the 'checks and balances' institutions are appointed by the governments in place at the time which further paralyses the system as they have influence for a much longer time... e.g. the supreme court.

I mean the US ceased to be a democracy about 20 years ago. I think it looks like it is in the balance between and oligarchy and authoritarian state now.
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Post by halfwise Wed Nov 09, 2022 6:01 pm

Most of us saw a glimmer of hope until Trump came in and demonstrated how a demagogue can convince a sizable chunk of the population that the parts of the government that actually DO function are broken. Following his model most of the Republican losers will refuse to concede, and our democracy is finished.

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Post by Lancebloke Thu Nov 10, 2022 6:00 pm

Very interesting outcomes so far! Normally the mid-terms go quite wildly against the incumbent presidents party, with the exception of W.Bush which had a lot to do with 9/11.

More interesting is most of Trumps picks got smashed and his potential 2024 rival in Florida did really well. I wonder if this spells the end for him as it looks quite clear that a lot of people have had enough of his bullshit.
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Post by halfwise Thu Nov 10, 2022 8:15 pm

Even though his rival Ron DeSantis would be more effective at implementing Trumpian policies I disagree with, I'd still find him preferable because at least he's coherent. I'd be annoyed with him, but not cringing with embarrassment nearly every time he speaks.

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Post by Pettytyrant101 Sun Nov 13, 2022 2:24 pm

{{ So I decided to tune into Fox and Friends this monring mainly for alaugh, instead I was horrified.
One of the three numpties that was presenting it was actually arguing that the reason for the failure of the red wave to materialise was, wait for it...too many people were allowed to vote!

Yup his actual argument was that mail in voting made it too easy for people to vote and so more people voted than if they had to physically turn up ata polling station and this was bad. And further he questioned, what did these extra voters know about politics? Before going on to say that there should be a minimum criteria for voting that was more than filling in a ballot and mailing it and that it wasnt good to have more voters if they were, effectively the wrong sort of voter ie ones that didnt agree with him and the Republicans. I couldnt believe my ears.
This is America? Self styled bastion of democracy isnt it? Deploring an increase in the amount of folk voting in a democratic election? Absoultely gobsmacked by a complete gobshite. Shocked Has the republican side really squewed so far that they are now an anti-democracy party?}}

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