Re: star trek thread

[Eldorion]

Not addresed particularly at you Eldo

I'd hope it's not addressed at me, seeing as I didn't post the image in the first place.

[Pettytyrant101]

Sorry Eldo- usual caveat applies-

[halfwise]

I recently saw Star Trek Into Darkness, and pretty much liked it. (hard to admit). I still feel Chris Pine and Zach Quinto don't hold a candle to the originals, and Kirk should never say "Let's get that Son of a Bitch!", and Quinto shows too much emotion (I can hear him wail "This goes against everything I learned about acting!") but just as a movie it was better than many of the previous ones.

Spoiler:

[David H]

Quinto shows too much emotion (I can hear him wail "This goes against everything I learned about acting!")

Yep, Nemoy had a definite advantage being more or less unencumbered with such concerns.

[Mrs Figg]

OI!! Nimoys eyebrow is my hero.

[Norc]

I recently saw Star Trek Into Darkness, and pretty much liked it. (hard to admit). I still feel Chris Pine and Zach Quinto don't hold a candle to the originals, and Kirk should never say "Let's get that Son of a Bitch!", and Quinto shows too much emotion (I can hear him wail "This goes against everything I learned about acting!") but just as a movie it was better than many of the previous ones.

Spoiler:

yeeeey!!!!

i kinda agree on Quinto, but spock is young remember (i like em too being mysterious and complex and reserved and all that )

[halfwise]

i kinda agree on Quinto, but spock is young remember (i like em too being mysterious and complex and reserved and all that )

if you like mysterious and complex and reserved then watch some vintage Nimoy, from the television series. You'll swoon.

[azriel]

I loved Spock purely cos he WAS logical, & didnt let emotions get in the way, made him reliable & dependable

[halfwise]

Quinto shows too much emotion (I can hear him wail "This goes against everything I learned about acting!")

Yep, Nemoy had a definite advantage being more or less unencumbered with such concerns.

What exactly do you mean, David? Nimoy has had a long and varied acting career both before and after Star Trek.

[halfwise]

I recently saw Star Trek Into Darkness, and pretty much liked it. (hard to admit). I still feel Chris Pine and Zach Quinto don't hold a candle to the originals, and Kirk should never say "Let's get that Son of a Bitch!", and Quinto shows too much emotion (I can hear him wail "This goes against everything I learned about acting!") but just as a movie it was better than many of the previous ones.

Spoiler:

Though in retrospect it's still not Star Trek. No investigation of moral quandaries, no intellectual twists. An enjoyable popcorn movie.

[CC12 35]

the whole point of spock issss that he shows emotion

[halfwise]

Only at dramatically key moments. Quinto always shows a touch of irritation, etc. There shouldn't be anything except intellectual surprise until there's a true reason for him to crack.

[CC12 35]

Only at dramatically key moments. Quinto always shows a touch of irritation, etc. There shouldn't be anything except intellectual surprise until there's a true reason for him to crack.

her last name is grey and, you see, it's a pun on the foundational text "gray's anatomy", which works bc she works in a hospital

[David H]

What exactly do you mean, David? Nimoy has had a long and varied acting career both before and after Star Trek.

We're not going to bring up the "Ballad of Bilbo Baggins" video again are we?

When I was a kid I had two TV heros: Spock and Kwai Chang Caine.
But I always thought Nemoy's protests in "I AM NOT SPOCK" rang a bit false.
It seems clear to me that the character of Spock evolved over time to fit Nemoy's acting style and his gift of expressing a whole range of emotions with a single arched eyebrow on a stony face.

[halfwise]

He admitted in "I Am Spock" that he and Spock did converge. Yes, the arched eyebrow IS the character. I don't remember if Quinto ever really nailed that.

[Mrs Figg]

i kinda agree on Quinto, but spock is young remember (i like em too being mysterious and complex and reserved and all that )

if you like mysterious and complex and reserved then watch some vintage Nimoy, from the television series. You'll swoon.

well I swooned. he was my first crush.

[Norc]

Only at dramatically key moments. Quinto always shows a touch of irritation, etc. There shouldn't be anything except intellectual surprise until there's a true reason for him to crack.

but annoyed spock is fun spock though i see what you mean.

[David H]

A question for the Original Series fans:

Has anybody seen the remastered edits? How do they hold up against the originals. I'm of two minds on this.....

[Pettytyrant101]

Wel you know me David, always ready with the crabbit- I thought they did a superbjob with the remastering- they havent added as such so much as just redone the original effects and shots in the style of the original- there arent huge sfx scenes inserted, it doesnt rub against the original footage in a jarring manner- it all works excellently in my opinion.
I highly, highly recommend them.

[David H]

OK then....

[Pettytyrant101]

Wasnt the reaction I expected to have when I sat down to watch them either, that I came out of it very, very pleased with what they had done and how well they had treated the original material, it was a bit of a shock to the ole crabbit.

[halfwise]

....they havent added as such so much as just redone the original effects and shots in the style of the original- there arent huge sfx scenes inserted, it doesnt rub against the original footage in a jarring manner...
I highly, highly recommend them.

Wait, how can you redo shots? Effects I get since they are added afterwards, but you can't redo a shot more than a few years later on account of McCoy shaking like a leaf, etc. So what are you talking about?

[Norc]

shaking like a leaf?

[halfwise]

Quinto shows too much emotion (I can hear him wail "This goes against everything I learned about acting!")

Yep, Nemoy had a definite advantage being more or less unencumbered with such concerns.

What exactly do you mean, David? Nimoy has had a long and varied acting career both before and after Star Trek.

We're not going to bring up the "Ballad of Bilbo Baggins" video again are we?

When I was a kid I had two TV heros: Spock and Kwai Chang Caine.
But I always thought Nemoy's protests in "I AM NOT SPOCK" rang a bit false.
It seems clear to me that the character of Spock evolved over time to fit Nemoy's acting style and his gift of expressing a whole range of emotions with a single arched eyebrow on a stony face.

Ah, at first I thought you were making snide comments about Nimoy's acting chops, and was ready to go whupass on you, but I see you are a fan.

[Pettytyrant101]

Not sure what you mean Halfy- they havent redone perfomrances or some magic- they just redid the ship exterior shots and planets, particualrly planets seen from space look good.
But they are done with a great deal of care to be in the style of the original model shots.