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Post by Forest Shepherd Wed Jul 13, 2022 7:18 am

Interesting. I don't care about Star Trek at all, but the Red Letter Media guys talk about it a lot. They've been reviewing Picard lately and absolutely demolishing it. They mentioned Strange New Worlds, but are so disillusioned with ST in general that I don't think they're even going to bother watching it.
Glad you liked it, but neither will I, lol.

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Post by Pettytyrant101 Wed Jul 13, 2022 12:02 pm

{{ Well in comparison I gave up on Discovery after halfway through its first series, I gave up on Picard twice, I tried watching it originally but was too awful, and I tried the new one and made it through three episodes.
The fact I watched this entire series, and enjoyed most of it therefore is somewhat of a miracle. }}

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Post by halfwise Wed Jul 13, 2022 12:08 pm

For me Deep Space 9 was the last of the watchable Star Trek, mainly due to the writing. I did watch a little of Enterprise because I liked the lead, but didn't feel caught up in it.

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Post by Pettytyrant101 Wed Jul 13, 2022 12:17 pm

{{ When it comes to Trek, I like the original series, though plenty terrible episodes there, TNG is good from about end of series 3 till series 6- and then the finale of 7- lot of filler though throughout, DS9 is by far the most consistent in quality, but again doesnt get watchable until about series 3 and the last series is a car crash.
I'd say, for me, Strange New Worlds is the best single series in terms of consistency of any modern Trek- but having said that its not yet got an outstanding episode, does have good though- it just doesnt have many bad ones in comparison to all the others. }}

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Post by chris63 Thu Jul 14, 2022 2:54 am

Just watched the new Star Trek serves. Expected something better. Surprised if they make a series 2.
Very disappointed. I prefer Star Trek Discovery to be honest.

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Post by chris63 Thu Jul 14, 2022 3:02 am

Episode 8 was absolute rubbish. Me and the wife was laughing it was that bad
Reminded us of a school play.


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Post by chris63 Thu Jul 14, 2022 3:08 am

This guy certainly doesn't like it.


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Post by Forest Shepherd Thu Jul 14, 2022 6:08 am

Feels good to not care about Star Trek.
Perhaps this is how non-Tolkien fans feel?

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Post by chris63 Thu Jul 14, 2022 6:16 am

Am I the only one looking forward to The Rings of Power?

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Post by Pettytyrant101 Thu Jul 14, 2022 7:14 am

Episode 8 was absolute rubbish.- Chris

{{"and has the fewest outright unwatchable awful episodes (1 by my count"- yeah thats the ep I meant. Though its no worse than most of the entire first series of DS9- or the appalling 'African tribe' aliens that steal white women in TNG-

On balance I'd say it was off to abetter start in terms of consistently that any other modern ST. Voyager was awful its first series, first few series in fact and only got so-so afterwards, TNG and DS9 were pretty unwatchable garbage in their early series. And Enterprise first series was ST soft porn! }}

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Post by halfwise Thu Jul 14, 2022 11:02 am

That Tasha Yar clip is pretty cringe worthy, you'd think they'd have learned from a similar episode in the original Star Trek.

It did take a while for TNG and DS9 to find their footing. The original series had some episodes that felt off among the more peripheral characters like Sulu and Uhura, but the main trio was solid from the beginning.

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Post by chris63 Thu Jul 14, 2022 1:54 pm

The last episode was actually very good.

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Post by Pettytyrant101 Thu Jul 14, 2022 3:25 pm

{{ Yes it was, and risky too to take on one of the most beloved and iconic episodes from the original ST- Balance of Terror. I also liked their Kirk- he looks, sounds and acts pretty much nothing like Shatner, but they nailed Kirk's personality in the writing. Also a nice reversal of the expected- peaceful overtures and giving the other side the benefit of the doubt being fatal.

Nice vid this comparing the original episode and this one, lets you appreciate where they have lifted camera moves, or what actors are doing from the original- also the use of classic Trek music was great as was the subtle but period use of the classic bright light bar across the eyes when lighting the actors - }}


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Post by halfwise Thu Jul 14, 2022 3:47 pm

chris63 wrote:Am I the only one looking forward to The Rings of Power?

Oh, I want to see it. It's just a question of whether it has enough to offer to outweigh how much they efface of what Tolkien actually wrote. Watching hot young elves scamper about in nice landscapes might do it for me as a guilty pleasure, but it probably won't help me relive favorite parts from the books.

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Post by Forest Shepherd Fri Jul 15, 2022 4:20 am

chris63 wrote:Am I the only one looking forward to The Rings of Power?
Yes.

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