Re: star trek thread

[CC12 35]

I'm guessing that's George Takei's Facebook page

[halfwise]

Thanks Chris for bring the topic back to, uh...the topic. And here's an ouchy review of Star Trek Into Darkness; the only one singled out for praise is Cumberbums.


Review: 'Trek' goes not so boldly into rehash zone

By DAVID GERMAIN | Associated Press

"Star Trek Into Darkness" is like fan-boy fiction on a $185 million budget. It's reverential, it's faithful, it's steeped in "Trek" mythology.

It's also an excessively derivative what-if rehash of themes and interactions that came before, most of the characters lesser copies and even caricatures of the originals. The scenario's been hijacked and rejiggered from better "Trek" plots of decades ago, the best verbal exchanges lifted nearly verbatim from past adventures.

In short, the new chiefs of Starfleet aren't coming up with much to call their own.

They pile on the spectacle in a way that's never been seen before in "Star Trek," whose old big-screen incarnations were so notoriously underfunded they had to go back and borrow props, miniatures and visual effects from previous installments. The action in "Into Darkness" is top-notch, the visuals grand, though the movie's needless conversion to 3-D muddies the images.
But the heart is, well, halfhearted, as though the people of the 23rd century are there to mouth the standard logic-vs.-emotion, needs-of-the-many-vs.-needs-of-the-few patter of "Star Trek" to count time before the next space battle or ray-gun shootout.

Director J.J. Abrams was most definitely not a fan-boy for this franchise when he made 2009's "Star Trek," which reintroduced Kirk, Spock and the rest of the starship Enterprise gang with a time-travel twist that allowed the William Shatner-Leonard Nimoy original to coexist with an entirely different destiny for the new players.

Abrams grew up a fan of "Star Wars," the next space saga he'll be reviving with the launch of a third trilogy. But his key collaborators, screenwriters Robert Orci, Alex Kurtzman and Damon Lindelof, are "Trek" fan-boys to their marrow. They know this world, they love this world, and like many fans, they have a particular fixation on 1982's "Star Trek: The Wrath of Khan," the best that the franchise has ever had to offer, on the big-screen or TV.

The 2009 reboot replayed and tweaked elements connected to "Wrath of Khan," and "Into Darkness" mines that vein further. Some of that revisitation is cool in an alternate-history way, but the filmmakers remain so closely in orbit around yesteryear's "Star Trek" that they wind up zigzagging fitfully through the Enterprise's greatest hits.

"Into Darkness" opens with a splashy action sequence to again show the cockiness of Capt. James Kirk (Chris Pine) — with his willingness to flaunt the rules — and the icy intellect of half-Vulcan First Officer Spock (Zachary Quinto), who's willing to sacrifice his life to stick to the Starfleet playbook.
It's clear these two young'uns don't play well together, but just as the space brass is about to split them up, Starfleet is hit by savage terrorist attacks by mysterious desperado John Harrison (Benedict Cumberbatch). Kirk, Spock and their Enterprise crew are dispatched to take Harrison out with weapons that could prove the mother of all drone strikes, maintaining the usual see-how-relevant-we-are conceit of the "Trek" cosmos.

But loyalties slip and shift as the Enterprise uncovers the strange history of Harrison and his connections to a hawkish Starfleet admiral (Peter Weller).
Along the way, Spock hits some speed bumps in his romance with Zoe Saldana's beautiful and brilliant Lt. Uhura, while Kirk meets Alice Eve's beautiful and brilliant Dr. Carol Marcus ("Wrath of Khan" fans well know who she is and her importance to "Star Trek").

The rest of the gang keeps up their routines. Curmudgeonly Dr. McCoy (Karl Urban) gripes and moans, helmsman Sulu (John Cho) ably steers the ship, navigator Chekov (Anton Yelchin) does his precocious shtick and engineer Scott (Simon Pegg) works his technical miracles.

Fine acting has rarely been a cornerstone of "Star Trek," but much of the "Into Darkness" cast seems to have taken ham lessons from Shatner. Urban maintains the same grouchy, stick-up-his-butt expression throughout, while Chekov with his almost incomprehensible Russian accent and Pegg with his "Shrek"-thick Scottish brogue become downright cartoonish.

Though they squabble like bratty teens early on, Pine and Quinto eventually show sparks of the Kirk-Spock fraternal love at the core of "Star Trek."

The big find here is Cumberbatch, who joins Ricardo Montalban, Christopher Plummer and Alice Krige in a fairly limited roster of great "Trek" villains. With his rumbling voice and stony stare, the star of Britain's detective update "Sherlock" is fearsome and relentless, a one-man army who truly seems like more than a match for poor Enterprise, all on his own.

As Abrams moves on to "Star Wars," it falls to some next-generation filmmaker to carry on "Star Trek" should more sequels follow. Abrams hasn't really guided the franchise into deep space, but he leaves it in a good place for successors to tell some rip-roaring sci-fi stories, without relying on reruns of old "Trek" moments.

"Star Trek Into Darkness," a Paramount release, is rated PG-13 for intense sequences of sci-fi action and violence. Running time: 132 minutes. Two stars out of four.

[Mrs Figg]

''acting has rarely been a cornerstone of "Star Trek," but much of the "Into Darkness" cast seems to have taken ham lessons from Shatner. Urban maintains the same grouchy, stick-up-his-butt expression throughout''

thats why I liked the original. Ham and Grouch, so thats a positive then.

[Eldorion]

My biggest worry about Cumberbatch's character is that he'll end up being another Joker knock-off. I'm a bit sick of mega-genius villains with needlessly convoluted plans that involve allowing themselves to be captured. I get it, The Dark Knight made a lot of money, but it'd be nice to move on.

My fingers are crossed that Into Darkness avoids that.

[Norc]

it's not like the joker, Eldo. trust me though the plot isn't brilliantly dificult to follow.

[Norc]

Fine acting has rarely been a cornerstone of "Star Trek," but much of the "Into Darkness" cast seems to have taken ham lessons from Shatner. Urban maintains the same grouchy, stick-up-his-butt expression throughout, while Chekov with his almost incomprehensible Russian accent and Pegg with his "Shrek"-thick Scottish brogue become downright cartoonish.

how is this a bad thing, i love Chekov, he's adorable and a hero and Pegg's scott, he's hillarious

The big find here is Cumberbatch, who joins Ricardo Montalban, Christopher Plummer and Alice Krige in a fairly limited roster of great "Trek" villains. With his rumbling voice and stony stare, the star of Britain's detective update "Sherlock" is fearsome and relentless, a one-man army who truly seems like more than a match for poor Enterprise, all on his own.




btw, i dunno if my review will come or not. If i am not pulled for exam tomorrow, i think i'll write it but if i am, then hell to the no .

[Norc]

there is a star trek spoiler, also some sherlock questions
http://www.usatoday.com/videos/life/movies/2013/05/14/2159191/

[Norc]

[Pettytyrant101]

Jon Stewart

[Eldorion]

I think the best description of nu-Trek was from the Honest Trailer that was posted a few days ago. "Basically JJ Abrams' Star Wars demo reel."

[Norc]

also some mention of star wars which should piss of Petty

[Pettytyrant101]

It did piss me off (why do I even listen )

Sooner he buggers off to SW and ST goes back to people who actually understand it the better.

[Norc]

this mtv interview with Benedict is totally worth watching srsly, it's so funny, i know it seems suspicious when there is no vid here, but i couldn't figure out how. so sorry, but he does Swarznegger impressions and talks american and gets a new american name. srsly, i am not jokinig,

yeah, the whole text is the link btw.

[halfwise]

I saw the theatrical trailer to Star Trek into Darkness last night. It was just enough to give some impressions of the acting.

Zachary Quinto seems a callow youth in comparison to a young Leonard Nimoy. He brings no believable gravitas to the character.

Chris Pine simply doesn't have the depth of intensity that William Shatner brought to Kirk. And on a related note
Kirk doesn't say "Let's get that Son of a Bitch."
How totally wrong is that?

Cumberbums of course is astoundingly excellent. It only takes 10 seconds or less to see this. A review I just read put it this way:

"It is easy to see why Cumberbatch has developed a dedicated following from his work as the title character on the British series "Sherlock." He's a walking spectacle. If I was an actor with an ego, I would not want to share screen time with this man. Unless you're there to be comic relief, Cumberbatch is going to make you look like a dinner theater actor . "

[Mrs Figg]

''Cumberbums of course is astoundingly excellent. It only takes 10 seconds or less to see this'' Halfwise

Halfy you are going to earn serious Brownie Points with someone who shall remain Norcless

[Ally]

Norc?

[Eldorion]

Norc?

She's clearly referring to Kafria duh

[Norc]

"It is easy to see why Cumberbatch has developed a dedicated following from his work as the title character on the British series "Sherlock." He's a walking spectacle. If I was an actor with an ego, I would not want to share screen time with this man. Unless you're there to be comic relief, Cumberbatch is going to make you look like a dinner theater actor . "

''Cumberbums of course is astoundingly excellent. It only takes 10 seconds or less to see this'' Halfwise

see i don't like him just 'cus of his looks

[Mrs Figg]

Brownie Points Won like a Boss.

[halfwise]

Bet he can't pout like Justin Bieber.

[Norc]

photo proof of the neutron-cream incident.

[halfwise]

Hey Norcy - look at # 2:

http://movies.yahoo.com/blogs/movie-talk/5-super-stealthy-facts-star-trek-baddie-benedict-052825523.html

[chris63]

[Norc]

Hey Norcy - look at # 2:

http://movies.yahoo.com/blogs/movie-talk/5-super-stealthy-facts-star-trek-baddie-benedict-052825523.html

2. He is currently single.
Cumberbatch had been a steadfast boyfriend to his college classmate Olivia Poulet… up until recently. The two dated for twelve years. But recently on Britain's "The Graham Norton Show," the actor referred to his "ex-girlfriend." Ladies, the door is now wide open.

really, halfy, really? that's like over a year ago, i mean srsly.. i knew that months ago. like, there even was a rumour about Liv Tyler and Ben.

what do you take me for?

[Norc]

i need this shirt.