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Post by halfwise Sat Jan 12, 2013 4:46 am

Just like Tauriel pulls me in; if her elven dress doesn't have a slit clear up to her armpit I'm gonna complain something serious.

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Post by Mrs Figg Sat Jan 12, 2013 5:36 am

However. Thorin is wearing the Mithril shirt in the film, so they are obviously changing it from being an anonymous prince's shirt to something Thorin gives him as a personal gift.
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Post by the truth Sat Jan 12, 2013 11:56 am

Halfwise Im tak=lking about Thranduil being mentioned by name in the Hobbit book , You must have mis-understood me because the council of ELrond is in TFOTR.
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Post by the truth Sat Jan 12, 2013 12:14 pm

Figgs Im not disputing you totally , I just dont see the connection you are making with the Mithril Shirt, Where are you getting this connection that it is the same shirt , Mithril was very pricey so most folks didnt have it incorporated in theyre armour , And Thorin & company where down on theyre luck struggling to survive , so I cant see him having a priceless mithril shirt .In the book ,they have really no armour or weapons that are mentioned , till The three swords are aquired from the troll lair , later they get some bows from Beorn, its possible I missed somthing in the movie as I was about to fall asleep .I believe all that is mentioned is that they have some mine excavating tools such as picks and mattocks . I dont mean to be so negative ,but its not the hobbit , its a very poor attempt at being a prequel to LOTRs and a prologue of the history of middle earth & a poor attempt at that as well , for someone who had rights to the appendices it was very poor use of source material you could just about make a movie with the stuff that was left out & misconstrued and twisted. Maybe Ive read these books too many times and become a fanatic about it ,I dont even know how many times Ive read them anymore I had read them more than twenty times by age 18. Talking bout being obsessed with Tolkien Huh.
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Post by Pettytyrant101 Sat Jan 12, 2013 12:46 pm

Nothin unusual in your position at all Truth! Pefectly reasonable in my view- you could make a film out of just the bits PJ has screwed in TH.

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Post by Mrs Figg Sat Jan 12, 2013 1:05 pm

Dearest Truth I SAW it on Thorin in the film. I dont know how to make it clearer to you. I am only saying that its in the film, and I suppose Thorin gives it to Bilbo as a parting gift. Wink

If you need to check its in the battle scenes of Aziwhatsit.
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Post by Pettytyrant101 Sat Jan 12, 2013 6:09 pm

It would fit with the way PJ's films have to invlove everything- the Arkenstone cant just be a hugely beautiful coveted jewel- it has to become the jewel you need to be King.
So it does follow in PJ world that Bilbos mithril shirt couldnt just be a mithril shirt- it has to be Thorins mithril shirt.

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Post by Mrs Figg Sat Jan 12, 2013 6:13 pm

well it makes sense to me. and it would be a nice continuity thingie.
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Post by Pettytyrant101 Sat Jan 12, 2013 6:25 pm

Of the changes Pj has made I dont particularly mind this one- it doesnt really affect or significantly alter anything or any of the characters- Id file it under unnecesary but acceptable as adaptation.

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Post by the truth Sat Jan 12, 2013 6:31 pm

AHH now I see why petty is always antagonizing you Figgy, you are even more ravishly beautifull when your dander is up.

{{{ ya reckon she bought that Petty , Dont want her angry with me ,I hear she will throw rotten lembas bread at you when she is mad }}}
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Post by the truth Sat Jan 12, 2013 6:33 pm

OH How do we know its a Mithril shirt Figgs and not just a Regular old Steel mail shirt. {{{ she is boiling over now }}} I love this encryption stuff lol!
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Post by Pettytyrant101 Sat Jan 12, 2013 6:33 pm

{{{Ive found Truth the best bet is to expect having rotten lembas bread thrown at you. And she is cute when she's stroppy- but then I'm Scottish and all our women are like that but with added violence}}}}

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Post by Mrs Figg Sat Jan 12, 2013 6:37 pm

Rolling Eyes cos its the same one Frodo had. you boys are sure silly billies. Laughing
girls notice nice shiny silvery accessories.
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Post by the truth Sat Jan 12, 2013 6:45 pm

It may just have shiny stuff because Thorin has been taking fashion tips from Thandypants , Thandy and Leggy do have alot of feminan features , I wonder if Tauriel is going to be kindof Butch that would sort of equal things out .
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Post by Mrs Figg Sat Jan 12, 2013 9:07 pm

totally amazing deleted scenes. check out Eowyn in the glittering Caves.


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Post by azriel Sat Jan 12, 2013 9:20 pm

I enjoyed those deletes, half should have been kept in, replacing other stuff that stayed! Eowyn was the one character that I DID believe in, she showed guts & determination & didnt back down OR ignore the ones that relied or needed her. Im glad she "found" Faramir, (lucky moo!) We could do with a Faramir in OUR lives, (ladies only guys! grab yer own fella!) Very Happy

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Post by Mrs Figg Sat Jan 12, 2013 9:47 pm

I wish they could have kept most of the Elven bits, and its interesting that Elrond was in favour of men not doubtful of them in one scene. and yes the Eowyn bits in the GC. that shot of Legolas in Rivendell was gorgeous, and Arwen on the bridge. Very Happy
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Post by Ringdrotten Sat Jan 12, 2013 10:05 pm

Mrs Figg wrote:totally amazing deleted scenes. check out Eowyn in the glittering Caves.



Shocked Wasn't there a discussion ages ago about Elrond citing the "one ring to rule them all" verse during the Council of Elrond scene? Orwell was right, it just never made the final cuts!

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Post by Orwell Sat Jan 12, 2013 10:07 pm

What a perceptive young fellow you are, Ringo. Nod

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Post by Mrs Figg Sat Jan 12, 2013 10:10 pm

yes, and they had filmed the Scouring of the Shire too it seems.
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Post by Pettytyrant101 Sat Jan 12, 2013 10:12 pm

What a perceptive young fellow you are, Ringo.- Orwell

I am still claiming a victory here Orwell, as the matter under discussion was using Elronds version for the opeing of my edits- but its not the whole Ring verse so itss no good, even if, admitedly it does exist.

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Post by Pettytyrant101 Sat Jan 12, 2013 10:12 pm

Scouring Mrs Figg- where did you see Scouring? Shocked

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Post by Mrs Figg Sat Jan 12, 2013 10:15 pm

in the deleted scenes I just posted. Rolling Eyes
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Post by Pettytyrant101 Sat Jan 12, 2013 10:16 pm

Watched it through 3 times now- cant see anything that loks like Scouring- whereabouts in it?

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Post by Mrs Figg Sat Jan 12, 2013 10:25 pm

oops soz I will post the next bit.
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