Re: All New Who

by Pettytyrant101 Tue Jan 03, 2023 7:31 pm

{{ Well if you were hoping RTD might leave the politics aside in his Who looks like the opposite is happening. Shots from filming episode one of the new series proper seems to be

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So looks like RTD is going to dive right in from ep 1 with a political themed tale. }}

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by **Amarië** Tue Jan 03, 2023 8:39 pm

Yeeeeeeey....

by Pettytyrant101 Wed Jan 04, 2023 1:56 am

{{ well I think on what we know so far- the above spoiler combined with the first black Doctor

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- that we can safely say RTD Who is going to be at least as political as Chibnal. The best hope is that unlike Chibbers bludgeoning and botching of political meSsages this will at least be better written, and hopefully not be the focus and that will still be on a good Who story and good well rounded characters first and foremost- but we shall see! }}

by **Amarië** Wed Jan 04, 2023 6:53 am

True, RTD is good at writing people. I get automatically worried, too much woke arguing everywhere, I guess.

by Pettytyrant101 Wed Jan 04, 2023 1:58 pm

{{ Politics itself is not a problem in Who, some of my favourite episodes from classic had a political message behind them, stuff like Inferno, Remembrance, Green Death, Happiness Patrol, these all have strong social/political commentary, but thing is they also tell a good Who story with good character beats.

RTD's first stint was also political and social inclined, hence accusations during his run of there being a 'gay agenda' as more and more non-hetrosexual characters became part of mainstream Who.

Moffat was more interested in broader philosophical questions than the minutae of current politics but that doesnt mean it was devoid of politics, its not, probably the most openly political episode of his era is 12th Doctor story Oxygen and its critique of unfettered capitalism- but its also a character piece, has some great dramatic moments like the space walk, and has killer space suits and space zombies to enjoy.

The trouble with Chibnal is not that he went political, its that he did it so badly. Not only are his episodes not well written they lack all subtlty to the point of just having the Doctor directly lecture the camera and audience on the political point. It was crude, poorly realised and felt like being lectured. I just cant see RTD making those same mistakes when injecting his politics into the show. He's too good a character writer just to have his characters directly state the point, I hope. }}

by Mrs Figg Wed Jan 04, 2023 4:36 pm

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by Pettytyrant101 Wed Jan 04, 2023 7:56 pm

{{ Having said all that the photo doesnt make it look like its going to be subtle Suspect

So I am not concern free, more living in hope. }}

by Pettytyrant101 Wed Jan 04, 2023 8:35 pm

{{ new monster spotted during filming of ep 1- so at least it wont just be about

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by Pettytyrant101 Thu Jan 05, 2023 1:30 pm

{{ More news- seems the rumours of episodes getting a 10 million budget thanks to the deal with Disney are just that, rumours. according to RTD although there is an increase in the budget fans should lower their expectations if they think its getting the sort of money an episode of GoT costs for examples. Im not too bothered by this as I'm of the opinion a solid budget that still requires some creative and imaginative thinking to manage can happen upon accidental genius, more than an unlimited budget that can rely on expensive spectacle often does. }}

by Mrs Figg Thu Jan 05, 2023 3:45 pm

throwing money at it wont make it good, just look at Rings of Power. If it was made in some blokes shed it could be just as good.

by Pettytyrant101 Sun Jan 08, 2023 4:01 pm

{{ More, higher quality, images of the new alien on location-

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I assume in the final compositing it will be a mix of the pratical on set suit- which I like as it gives the other actors something actually there to relate to and gives it that real world weight cgi often struggles to emulate - and cgi flourishes to sell it on top of the practical suit. }}

by Pettytyrant101 Mon Jan 09, 2023 4:28 pm

{{Offical announcement of the return of Kate Stewart and UNIT in the new series.

The original Brigadier first appeared during the 2nd Doctor era though he wasnt yet a Brigadier, he subsequently played a huge role in the 3rd Doctor era, and regularly appeared during 4's, popped up during 5's run and met the 1st Doctor and last appeared with the 7th ( his final onscreen appearence was in the Sarah Jane Adventures but he never met a Doctor in that one). So all in the Brig covered Doctors 1-7 and in real time it was 20 years before his first appearence on the show and his last.

His daughter Kate appeared as head of UNIT in the 11th Doctor era, she met 10 in the 50th and the 12th and 13th later. This news means she will also meet 14 and 15.

This means Kate is only one shy of the Brig in amount of Doctors she has known, but its only taken real time 10 years rather than 20.

However the Brig got far more characterisation than Kate has had in her time, mainly thanks to the 3rd Doctor era being set on earth with him working for the Brig. So if as rumoured the new RTD era is to feature UNIT quite extensively one hope I have is that RTD fleshes Kate out more as her own character, not just as being head of UNIT and the Brig's daughter.}}

by Pettytyrant101 Tue Jan 17, 2023 10:22 pm

{{ A lot better than the actual epiosde, and certainly funnier Laughing

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by Pettytyrant101 Sun Jan 22, 2023 8:45 am

{{ Higher quality leaked images of the new TARDIS interior-

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by Pettytyrant101 Sun Jan 22, 2023 12:56 pm

{{ In rumour mill we have an interesting one,

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by Pettytyrant101 Sun Jan 22, 2023 4:06 pm

{{ And another thats better than the actual episode was, let Simon and his Dalek friends put a smile on your lips as they try to enjoy a Dalek Hogmanay Time Loop Killing Spree! }}

by **Amarië** Mon Jan 23, 2023 6:11 pm

I am having a little trouble with that new interior. I am reminded of my beige table cloth with white polkadots and an add for a new mega ultra electric toothbrush. But perhaps it comes more together when the lighting is different.

Not too excited about the romance rumours.

by Pettytyrant101 Tue Jan 24, 2023 5:34 am

{{ I cant imagine the lighting will be so stark and flat when its on screen, the problem at the moment apart from a lack of colour is there is a lack of shadows anywhere. The lighting seems the same flat white everywhere.}}

by Pettytyrant101 Sun Jan 29, 2023 8:28 pm

{{ Found this interesting, RTD has got himself caught in a bit of a storm after seeming to complain about representation in tv.
At least thats how its been spun by the right wing press, the Telegraph for example went with - 'Russell T Davies lambasts diversity fixation of ‘rubbish’ new TV writers' as their headline. Problem is I dont think thats what he was saying at all.

Heres the full quote-

“I do a lot of mentoring, and there are voices wanting to be heard – of any gender or ethnicity – who consider themselves invisible. They hate the media that ignores them, and they’re trapped into wanting a job in that medium purely to increase representation. I read their scripts and they’re rubbish. They don’t actually love television, so they don’t know how to write for it.”

This is not a complaint to me about representation itself being the problem, but tv that exists purely for representation and nothing else is rubbish and badly written.
Given we know his Who will have a trans character, quite possibly the first gay Doctor and certainly the first non-white Doctor born outside the Uk, I think its fair to say RTD Who will not shy from representation, just that representation will not be the point of his Who- making good TV and telling good Who stories will be.

I find this actually rather a hopeful comment myself. }}

by **Amarië** Sun Jan 29, 2023 8:36 pm

I agree. That does sound promising. Nod

Who really needs RTD at his best.

by Pettytyrant101 Wed Feb 01, 2023 4:43 pm

{{ Some more encouraging words from RTD- "You'll see in November that it's not a radically changed show. It's lasted for 60 years because its good. It needs a bigger budget and bigger profile and hopefully that's what we're bringing it." }}

by Mrs Figg Wed Feb 01, 2023 5:56 pm

Well that's very astute of him, and hopeful too. He seems to be having a swipe at the last lot of 'diverse' writers of Chibnal's distastrous episodes who were chosen to get their 'voices' heard but hadn't a clue about entertainment, as they were obsessed by just hammering a political agenda.

by Pettytyrant101 Fri Feb 03, 2023 1:34 am

{{ I am taking the manner in which this denial is given that Moffat is definitely writing an ep or two here and there at some point for RTD }}