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Post by Pettytyrant101 Thu Jan 23, 2020 10:48 am

{{ Figures for series 12 so far that we have covering first 3 episodes-
Overnight      +7          audience share       timeshift
4.88m -      6.89m     (25.7%)                  +2.01m
4.60m -      6.07m     (26.2%)                  +1.47m
4.19m -      5.38m     (23.8%)                  +1.19m

Whats particulary worrying is not just the downward trend in those watching, but in those bothering to catch up, which during Capladi era was usually around the 2m mark.  }}

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Post by Mrs Figg Thu Jan 23, 2020 2:56 pm

Petty you should write a thesis about Doctor Who. Get Glasgow University to give you a distance learning degree and give you funding to do it. As Scotland seems to be big on computer gaming techies and creativity why not do a part-time degree. You could easily write 15-30,000 words on Who. It seems a waste to just leave your hard work and thoughts on here. Very Happy
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Post by Pettytyrant101 Fri Jan 24, 2020 10:36 am

{{ Trailer for the blu-ray release of Season 26 of Classic Who.The final one of classic Who and Mccoys best as the 7th Doctor (Ace's too). One of the tradegies of the axing of classic Who was that they did it just when it was finding its feet again. In Ace we had a companion pretty close to the modern one we got in Rose (not in personality but in emphasis in the story), and in story-telling and direction terms it was also heading in the direction NuWHo would eventually take it. }}


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Post by Mrs Figg Sun Jan 26, 2020 7:26 pm

wow I made it through first 5 minutes. It was actively unpleasant. Worst acting I have ever seen on telly, ever. Horrible fake 'danger' music, dead-eyed wooden acting or boggle-eyed OTT acting, and a strange static pace like trying to walk through mud. Added to that a creeping boredom of the dentist waiting room variety. Terrible!

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Post by Amarië Sun Jan 26, 2020 7:41 pm

Oh. I had forgotten there was a new episode. Yey.

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Post by Mrs Figg Sun Jan 26, 2020 8:00 pm

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Post by Amarië Sun Jan 26, 2020 9:34 pm

Watching. This is the worst acting yet.

Woman to woman. Marvelous. Rolling Eyes

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Flat team structure? Emphasis on flat, obviously.

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Post by Amarië Sun Jan 26, 2020 10:01 pm

Can we
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Post by Forest Shepherd Sun Jan 26, 2020 10:24 pm

Wow so humble Baker is Rolling Eyes

Ya can't help but like him anyway.

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Post by malickfan Sun Jan 26, 2020 10:27 pm

I caught a couple of minutes earlier...the acting/dialogue was every bit as terrible as I've been told, had no interest in watching it further.

Big Spoiler:

...I should note, that as curious as I am about these spoilers I still don't have much desire to catch up on the Whittaker era. Laughing Razz

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Post by malickfan Sun Jan 26, 2020 10:41 pm

Regarding the big surprise spoiler from tonight's episode, this related rumour was reported a while back on Gallireybase:

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...The source of this leak apparently reported several other rumours which have proven to be true.

Apparently we are also getting a Mary Shelley/Frankenstein/Cyberman story later in the series...which is something Big Finish already did with the 8th Doctor several years ago (he actually travelled with Mary for several years)

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Post by Mrs Figg Sun Jan 26, 2020 10:57 pm

still cant get over how bad that episode was :facepalm:
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Post by Forest Shepherd Mon Jan 27, 2020 7:19 am

Well, sounds like I made the right choice to not watch the new series.

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Post by Pettytyrant101 Mon Jan 27, 2020 10:37 am

{{ Well that was, something. Fugitive of the Judoon was a very odd episode, in many ways its the best episode of the entire Chibnal era, its the one that feels most like Who, Jodie is at her best so far as the Doctor and its not afraid to delve into the Who lore (and anyone who actually read my history of Gallifrey above would have had plenty to ponder from the reveals we got),and yet...

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Post by Amarië Mon Jan 27, 2020 12:51 pm

Nagual wrote:
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Post by Pettytyrant101 Mon Jan 27, 2020 1:34 pm

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Post by halfwise Mon Jan 27, 2020 2:16 pm

Well, I haven't seen any clips, but it seems to me that if they were going for diversity they may as well have gone all the way with a blustery black woman. Blown it out of the park. Instead they went halfway - got scared by the idea of a woman and went with someone who felt safe. Problem is, the Doctor isn't 'safe'.

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Post by Pettytyrant101 Mon Jan 27, 2020 2:26 pm

{{ Here you go Halfy- short though cant find anything longer yet.

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Incidentally I think the line "sorry, struggling with this" rather sums up Jodies time as the Doctor! }}

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Post by Mrs Figg Mon Jan 27, 2020 3:35 pm

I think Halfy is right, if they had started with the blustery black Doctor first it might have worked out better. She has a lot more presence than Jodie, even though I am sure there are better actors who could fit the bill. A Whoopi Goldberg type could have really added something fresh to the mix. Instead they chose a boring beige Doctor.
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Post by malickfan Mon Jan 27, 2020 3:41 pm

Whoopi Goldberg as the Doctor?

Although I don't particularly want a non-British/Irish actor/actress to play the Doctor I think she'd do a great job, not really someone I'd have thought of, but a very interesting choice Nod

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Post by halfwise Mon Jan 27, 2020 4:24 pm

That new woman is definitely an improvement, though not totally there. There needs to be something a touch fey about the Doctor, and she's a bit too business-like.

Not that I'm a Doctor expert compared to the rest of you lot, but some things are just obvious.

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Post by Pettytyrant101 Mon Jan 27, 2020 4:38 pm

{{ Halfy that rather depends where and when this other Doctor is from- if it is a pre-Hartnell 1st Doctor Doctor then he was not exactly fey at the start, he was going to cave a guys skull in with a rock because his inury was slowing them down, he kidnapped his first two human 'companions' and could be condecending and mocking to people he considered of lesser intellect. He was initially very down to earth oddly, he was distant and mysterious and grumpy yes, but not initially in a particualrly quirky or alien fashion beyond what Hartnell brought to the perfomance, it was over the 1st Doctors time with humans around and accidently finding himself saving worlds and stuff all the time that he began to loosen up and let those Doctorish, quirky, often childlike aspects emerge. And they were very much cemented as major traits by the 2nd Doctor, Patrick Troughton.
On top of that if you read my history of Gallifrey from above (which I of course recommend) you will see that the early Gallifreyan years especially under the Sisterhood then Rassilon's initial reign were not nice periods of time at all. }}}}

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Post by halfwise Mon Jan 27, 2020 8:50 pm

Speaking of female Doctors, a youngish physics professor published a theory in 2011 about gravitons having mass, which may solve the dark energy problem. I can't claim to follow her argument in detail even though it's a TED talk, but she has a somewhat delightful personal style.


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