Could Tolkien Have Fixed The Hobbit Films?

halfwise wrote:

3. Ringworld

Loved ringworld  

Are the sequels worth reading?

while I admire Ursula I have to take issue with what she said about quiet moments in LOTR. she obviously forgot Gandalf sitting alone in Minas Tirith, Sam and Frodo watching Elves leave Middle Earth, golden flowers on a stone crown. There is a lot of action too, but there are also a lot of battles in the book. what were they supposed to do? not show them.

malickfan wrote:

halfwise wrote:

3. Ringworld

Loved ringworld  

Are the sequels worth reading?

The beauty of Ringworld is the introduction of the cultures of puppeteers and Kzin, and of course the introduction of the ringworld itself. With all the introductions over, the sequels fall kind of flat.

If you liked Ringworld, try Neutron Star (collection of loosely linked short stories) and the Draco Tavern.

In my list I should also have mention the Polysotechnic League stories by Poul Anderson (Trader to the Stars, etc).

Mrs Figg wrote:while I admire Ursula I have to take issue with what she said about quiet moments in LOTR. she obviously forgot Gandalf sitting alone in Minas Tirith, Sam and Frodo watching Elves leave Middle Earth, golden flowers on a stone crown. There is a lot of action too, but there are also a lot of battles in the book. what were they supposed to do? not show them.

Agreed, I think those are all good examples of the LOTR films' more relaxed, contemplative side. And while that side is not as prominent as in the books, I think that's one of those inevitable changes that gets made in movies, even movies as long as the Trilogy.

er I didn't know John Howe had done a documentary about Tolkien. I just watched it, the original seems to be in French, I saw it in Italian, this is all I could find at short notice. have any of you guys seem it? its fantastic!  its called Looking for the Hobbit.

part 2

part 3

part 4

part 5

Oh excellent! In the time I went searching for links (none worked) you found it.

Not so excellent. in one of those wacky languages. I shall have to keep searching for an english version.

cant find it in English although it says it was dubbed in English.

halfwise wrote:
Edit: I remember Wind in the Willows fondly, but don't own a copy so can't refresh my judgement.  I shall have to correct that.  If non-fiction is included my list would explode, but Thor Heyerdahl's Aku-Aku is up there, perhaps for many of the reasons that cause archaeologists to scoff at it.

I thought you meant to put in Kon-Tiki here instead, and was pleasantly surprised to find out about this Aku-Aku story.

It's far more mysterious, being about Easter Island.  Though the history he constructs for Easter Island is not accepted, it's makes for a very compelling read.  Not as claustrophic as a raft.  Mesmerizing in fact.

I also have to say the Ra expeditions is also more interesting than Kon-Tiki. Connecting Egyption culture to Mexico and the Andes. Again, archaeologists roll their eyes, but it's a damn good read spanning two continents and an ocean.

halfwise wrote:Not so excellent.   in one of those wacky languages.  I shall have to keep searching for an english version.

It sounds like an interesting docu. I tried using YouTube's subtitle translation feature but it worked about as well as regular Google Translate. :/

Go figure.

its a shame because its a lovely documentary.  but its worth it just for the atmosphere even if you don't speak Franglaise.

Eldorion wrote:I hope high school goes well for you, david!  Glad to see you posting here, btw.  I was 14 when I joined here too but it's been too long since we've had an active teenage member.  Too many have either left or grown up (if only reluctantly).

Thank you for the support ! You may think because of my age I'm a sophomore, but I have a very late birthday, so I'm going into my first year of hs, which is extra nerve racking! I think I'll manage though, but probably with staying up a lot more than usual   . What do you mean when you say you starting here when you were 14, as I believe it was created in 2011 (making you 17 at the time from looking at your birthday)?

I'll field that one: Forumshire had a previous incarnation before what is known as Dark Planet Day when it was sold as part of a bundle to another company.  Eldo led the charge to regroup and founded a new independent site, after which a fishing expedition over the next year or so retrieved most of the old members.  Quite a technical accomplishment for a 17 year old!

We refer to the old site as Bree, which after the change-over gained a number of new posters and a rather different feel, though it still had a closer affinity in tone to Forumshire than most Tolkien sites. Largely through the recruiting efforts of Petty Tyrant we managed to abscond with many of the more wacked-out Breelanders. And here we are today.

I think I am one of those wacked out Breelanders

that seems to intensify the nearer I get to the Who thread. it starts buzzing like a geiger counter

Halfy touched on the basics of what happened with the forum (this being version 2), though I was actually 16 at the time since Dark Planet Day occurred in February and my birthday isn't until August. If you're interested in a somewhat lengthy account of the forum's origins I wrote a history of it here:

http://www.hobbitmovieforum.com/t847-forumshire-the-first-five-years

And Petty has a fictionalized account here:

http://www.hobbitmovieforum.com/t336-dark-planet-day-challenge-forumshire-fanfic

Largely through the recruiting efforts of Petty Tyrant we managed to abscond with many of the more wacked-out Breelanders.- Halfy

'think I am one of those wacked out Breelanders'- Figg

Does that mean I absconded from Bree with Figg!

Well its Figgs fault you are lumbered with me at least

yep

Aww, I like you guys.