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Post by Eldorion Mon Jun 15, 2015 4:45 am

There are a lot of differences between the last two books and the current season.  However Jon's arc in ADWD does end with a cliffhanger of him being stabbed by other members of the NIght's Watch, although the circumstances are different.  Almost no one believes that he is actually dead/going to stay dead.  One of the more popular theories is that he warged into Ghost, as there was some foreshadowing of this idea earlier in ADWD (Varamyr Sixskins survives the death of his human body through the same technique) and since Ghost was actually around in the books.
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Post by Eldorion Mon Jun 15, 2015 4:54 am

I will say though that ending all the subplots on cliffhangers is one one of the most faithful decisions they could have made when it comes to adapting ADWD.
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Post by Eldorion Mon Jun 15, 2015 6:04 am

Regarding the Stannis survival theories, the HBO viewer guide has already put a kibosh on that.

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Post by Bluebottle Mon Jun 15, 2015 10:42 am

I was going to watch the entirety of this tonight, but i have a feeling it's going to get rather painful. (More quality wise than anything else, though.) Maybe if I approach it like a parody..? scratch

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Post by Bluebottle Mon Jun 15, 2015 11:27 am

http://www.salon.com/2015/06/14/stop_defending_game_of_thrones_how_hbo_gutted_the_stories_i_love/

Wow. Shocked Very Happy

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Post by Bluebottle Mon Jun 15, 2015 11:30 am

From said article.

“Game of Thrones” is fun on an otherwise dull Sunday night. “Game of Thrones” provides a nice opportunity for water cooler chat with co-workers you would’ve otherwise stood with in awkward silence. “Game of Thrones” does not tell “A Song of Ice and Fire’s” story. “Game of Thrones” is a monster, a dragon, of its own now — a product reducing the most gripping moments from Martin’s books into tawdry instances of shock value, absent of any lasting emotion other than “Oh my god; I didn’t expect that!” But “themes are for eighth grade book reports,” according to Benioff. So what does accuracy matter so long as the right person sits on the Iron Throne in the end?

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Post by Mrs Figg Mon Jun 15, 2015 2:58 pm

I haven't seen the last episode yet so thanks for the spoiler warnings. Mad good job I realised in time and stopped reading.
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Post by bungobaggins Mon Jun 15, 2015 3:50 pm

Eh...the Arya scenes were the only really good ones.

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Post by bungobaggins Mon Jun 15, 2015 4:07 pm

Glad to see
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Post by Bluebottle Mon Jun 15, 2015 4:25 pm

http://www.slate.com/blogs/browbeat/2015/06/14/game_of_thrones_season_five_finale_review_the_series_may_be_packed_with.html?wpsrc=fol_tw

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Post by Eldorion Mon Jun 15, 2015 4:31 pm

Mrs Figg wrote:I haven't seen the last episode yet so thanks for the spoiler warnings. Mad good job I realised in time and stopped reading.

scratch No one has been consistently using spoiler tags for already aired episodes in this thread for a while now.  I did tag some of the images since I figured those would jump out at people skimming the thread more easily though. I'll try and tag specifics going forward for a couple of days though I guess.


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Post by Bluebottle Mon Jun 15, 2015 4:34 pm

bungobaggins wrote:Are books four and five really this bad?

Nowhere close. They have some pacing issues, and spend a lot of time on set up and delving into the characters rather than focus on the more action oriented approach of the first three books, but they are at least narratively coherent, and the shocking moments feel earned and a natural part of the narrative.

I think the best description I've heard if this season said they hit most of the important plot points, but removed all context and as such most of the meaning from those, supposed to be, monumental moments.  

Also, correct me if I'm wrong, did a certain someone loose all his horses for the second episode running? (They just don't care anymore, do they. Rolling Eyes)


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Post by Eldorion Mon Jun 15, 2015 4:34 pm

Bluebottle wrote:I was going to watch the entirety of this tonight, but i have a feeling it's going to get rather painful. (More quality wise than anything else, though.) Maybe if I approach it like a parody..? scratch

I mean if you're still watching at this point I don't think it's on another level from the rest of the season.

NB unrelated, but remember how it was "confirmed" that

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Post by Eldorion Mon Jun 15, 2015 4:44 pm

bungobaggins wrote:Eh...the Arya scenes were the only really good ones.

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Post by bungobaggins Mon Jun 15, 2015 4:45 pm

Ned Stark confirmed for season 6.

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Post by bungobaggins Mon Jun 15, 2015 5:07 pm

Eldorion wrote:
bungobaggins wrote:Eh...the Arya scenes were the only really good ones.

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Post by Eldorion Mon Jun 15, 2015 6:45 pm

In the interest of fairness, I did really like the scene with Sam and Jon discussing what it was like to be the most hated person in Castle Black.  I'm pretty sure that was a show invention. Well-written and acted IMO.
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Post by Bluebottle Mon Jun 15, 2015 7:14 pm

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Bluebottle wrote:I was going to watch the entirety of this tonight, but i have a feeling it's going to get rather painful. (More quality wise than anything else, though.) Maybe if I approach it like a parody..? scratch

I mean if you're still watching at this point I don't think it's on another level from the rest of the season.

NB unrelated, but remember how it was "confirmed" that

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True, though I'll approach it with caution. Smile I didn't watch the Stannis scenes last week, and I really struggle to with what they have done with the Winterfell arc. I could watch them for the giggles, because going by the descriptions it sounds hilarious..ly bad, but I don't know if I'm a little too invested in that part of the story.

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Post by Mrs Figg Mon Jun 15, 2015 7:59 pm

I am watchin ep 10 in one hours time so you don't need to use spoilers after that

ta very much Razz
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Post by Mrs Figg Mon Jun 15, 2015 10:54 pm

well contrary to you guys I thought it was brilliant! what a finale! I actually felt physically sick during the walk of shame. It was awesome. I love you god I love that show, didn't want it to end.

hey I did get to see Frankenmountain after all Razz

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Post by Mrs Figg Mon Jun 15, 2015 11:32 pm

I reckon Bran will save Jon.
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Post by halfwise Mon Jun 15, 2015 11:59 pm

Spoilers are officially extinquished from the thread!

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Post by Norc Tue Jun 16, 2015 12:29 am

NOOOOOOOOOO! What the fuck was that ? This whole season was rubbish!
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Post by Forest Shepherd Tue Jun 16, 2015 2:26 am

Eldorion wrote:lol

In and of itself, "for the watch" was done pretty well (except for the inclusion of Olly).  But the rushed and truncated plotline made robbed it of any real meaning beyond the emotional impact, though again, I'll acknowledge that they know how to deliver gut punches effectively.

I think you mean gut stabs.   Wink

lol!  Norc, leaving her signature post on the thread.

For a while there I thought we were finally going to find out what happened to Benjen Stark. We were getting to stuff beyond the published material, and so I thought it was possible. Stupid Benjen Stark... Just like how, in the books, it's not really made obvious that The Hound is dead.

I didn't expect Stannis to die! That came as an unpleasantly suitable ending to his recent sorrows. What did not come as a surprise, however, was the poisoning of Myrcella. When Dornish-wench kissed her on the lips I wondered if something was up, and when Myrcella and Jamie reconciled the truth of their lineage I knew something was up because the show has been killing off any daughters that express mutual love with their fathers recently.


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Post by Eldorion Tue Jun 16, 2015 3:23 am

Forest Shepherd wrote:I think you mean gut stabs.   Wink

Fair point. Wink

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