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Post by halfwise Mon Dec 04, 2017 3:39 am

Poor guy never gets to show his face.

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Post by malickfan Wed Dec 06, 2017 6:07 pm

http://www.denofgeek.com/uk/movies/knights-of-the-old-republic/53845/star-wars-next-trilogy-won-t-be-knights-of-the-old-republic

I did play KOTOR a bit back in the day, fantastic game from the little I remember, it would be a very interesting period for the films to explore, but I don't blame Johnson for wanting to do his own thing, I wonder if this new trilogy might explore some of the Force back story The Last Jedi will be introducing?

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Post by Lancebloke Sun Dec 10, 2017 5:40 pm

Few more days!
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Post by Eldorion Sun Dec 10, 2017 6:44 pm

TLJ sorta snuck up on me, but on the plus side that means the wait has been pretty easy. Razz
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Post by malickfan Sun Dec 10, 2017 8:11 pm

I'll be seeing it on Thursday evening opening night, hopefully it's less derivative than Force Awakens.

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Post by Lancebloke Wed Dec 13, 2017 4:33 pm

Will be seeing this at 11.30am tomorrow. Expect a spoiler laden review at some point.... in spoiler tags of course.

Have avoided all media on this for the last few days so only going on trailer 1. No 'Han Solo dies' spoilers this time!!!!!
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Post by halfwise Wed Dec 13, 2017 5:39 pm

This may be one of the few times I'll actually avoid reading spoilers. The reviews have been so good, and so insistent about avoiding spoilers that I'll see how long I can hold out.

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Post by halfwise Wed Dec 13, 2017 5:47 pm

A more penetrating critique than I've seen before, while still avoiding spoilers:

https://www.forbes.com/sites/markhughes/2017/12/12/review-star-wars-the-last-jedi-is-a-gloomier-flawed-but-ultimately-successful-sequel/#47863dbd2e79

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Post by Lancebloke Thu Dec 14, 2017 3:54 pm

OK..... so have seen The Last Jedi and not sure how I feel about it all just yet.

Not sure what people what consider spoilers so I am going in to spoiler tags now. Don't read on if you don't want any spoilers!!!!!!!!

Don't Read if you don't want it to be Spoiled:

Would be interested to hear what others think of the film. Make sure you spoiler tag though!
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Post by halfwise Thu Dec 14, 2017 4:29 pm

Damn this is hard.  Maybe I'll take a quick glimpse and if it starts to give too much away I'll close it down.

EDIT: Yeah, by the third sentence I hit that spoiler button like a panic button.


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Post by Lancebloke Thu Dec 14, 2017 4:29 pm

Don't... it gives too much away!
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Post by Forest Shepherd Thu Dec 14, 2017 5:32 pm

...I also began reading.
Damn my eyes!


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Post by halfwise Thu Dec 14, 2017 5:32 pm

https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/stunning-student-created-video-reveals-george-lucass-different-1975-star-wars-151658081.html

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Post by Forest Shepherd Thu Dec 14, 2017 5:33 pm

"Stunning" is up there with "one simple trick" as a go-to for click-bait titles.

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Post by halfwise Thu Dec 14, 2017 5:37 pm

yeah, and though I didn't think it was stunning at first the end credits (half the video) show just how much work they put in, and how much work we tend to take for granted when we watch a film.

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Post by malickfan Fri Dec 15, 2017 1:48 am

Well, I thought the Last Jedi was rather shit overall.

Overlong, too many characters doing not much, full of weird/pretensions plot points that didn't lead anywhere and rarely answered the questions Force Awakens posed (though it creates lots more of its own), inconsistent acting (Mark Hamill and Adam Driver were excellent throughout, Daisy Ridley was surprisingly flat compared to her sparky turn in TFA, John Boyega had very little to do) and ill judged humour, the pacing was rather good for the length of the film, but frankly I found it rather boring at times, it felt less like a follow up to TFA and more a weird hybrid of generic marvel action movie and pretentious indy drama, thoroughly confused on where this leaves things for Episode 9...

There's some very interesting visual moments and thematic character material in the film, and I applaud Rain Johnson for expanding the SW universe in weird ways (lots of new interesting creatures), but overall I found it a weird, bloated mess of a movie sinking under the weight of its ideas and runtime

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Post by halfwise Fri Dec 15, 2017 2:44 am

Razz Nice job of doing a critical evaluation without giving any spoilers!

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Post by Lancebloke Fri Dec 15, 2017 12:58 pm

Hi Malick.

Interesting viewpoint. I thought Daisy was better in this one than TFA. Agree with Mark and Adam though!

In my spoiler version I did say that there were some plot paths that seemed convoluted and detracted from other pieces that should have been fleshed out but I though the main lines worked well.

I would like to see this again. I am not sure where it sits with me.
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Post by Mrs Figg Fri Dec 15, 2017 2:17 pm

might go and watch The Shape of Water instead. Neutral
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Post by Forest Shepherd Fri Dec 15, 2017 4:12 pm

(Lady Bird is also worth seeing, but doesn't scratch that sci-fi/fantasy itch I suppose.)

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Post by malickfan Fri Dec 15, 2017 8:09 pm

https://uk.movies.yahoo.com/star-wars-last-jedi-interviews-rian-johnson-reveals-terrifying-clash-mark-hamill-exclusive-133311278.html

I agree with Mark Hamill Sad

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Post by malickfan Fri Dec 15, 2017 8:12 pm

Lancebloke wrote:Hi Malick.

Interesting viewpoint. I thought Daisy was better in this one than TFA. Agree with Mark and Adam though!

In my spoiler version I did say that there were some plot paths that seemed convoluted and detracted from other pieces that should have been fleshed out but I though the main lines worked well.

I would like to see this again. I am not sure where it sits with me.

Hmm, Daisy had less emotional beats to work through in this film so her performance had less energy and wide eyed wonder (which suits the character arc, I would concede she was a tad wooden in the opening scenes on Jakku in TFA) but it would be fair to say she has improved her techniques and body language.

Finn and Rose's story was very convoluted and ultimately largely pointless not to mention directly leading
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Post by malickfan Fri Dec 15, 2017 8:15 pm

Mrs Figg wrote:might go and watch The Shape of Water instead. Neutral

Eh, maybe wait for the dvd.

It seems to have split fans (not necessarily the casual viewer) right down the middle, at the end of my screening there seemed to be a sense of muted shock, certainly no applause...

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Post by malickfan Fri Dec 15, 2017 8:22 pm

I might have a chance to watch it again for free next week, perhaps with my expectations in check I could enjoy more the 2nd time around but I'm not sure I can be bothered to watch it again scratch

The prequels were bollocks (well ROTS had some great stuff in it I guess) but they didn't annoy me as much as TLJ did...

I'm getting crabbit flashbacks to my reaction to The Hobbit films No Evil or Very Mad Extremely Crabbit Banghead :facepalm:

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Post by malickfan Fri Dec 15, 2017 8:40 pm

Other things than annoyed me

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