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Who wants a Tolkien doll?
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A Tolkien take on Christmas
http://washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/op-eds/2011/12/tolkien-take-occupying-christmas/2028121
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I'd like to show the author of the Christmas one my signature! Tolkien didn't write an allegorical story! We just are able to apply many things to it!
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I Found this interesting.
So where did the date of Christmas originate? In 386, St John Chrysostom preached a sermon linking the date for Christmas to the date of the Annunciation. He does so in a way that suggests that this was already an established belief. The date of the Annunciation was based on a Jewish tradition that the world was created on March 25, or Nisan 15, according to the Jewish calendar. The Jews also believed that a great man would die on the same day as his conception. The early Christians (who were of course Jews) therefore concluded that Jesus had been conceived on March 25. This made it the date of the world’s creation, and the start of the world’s redemption (and therefore the new creation).
It’s easy. If the Lord Jesus Christ was conceived on March 25, then he was born nine months later on December 25. The date for Christmas is therefore determined by the date of the Annunciation and has nothing to do with the Roman celebration of the Saturnalia or the celebration of the birthday of Sol Invictus.
So Christmas Day cannot be separated from Ladyday–the medieval term for the Feast of the Annunciation. While we now (sadly) celebrate New Years’ Day on the pagan date Jan. 1, it was not always so. From the apostolic age through the Middle Ages, the church continued to battle the vestiges of paganism. So right through 1752, the new year was celebrated in Europe not at the outset of the pagan god Janus’s month, but on the Annunciation, March 25.
What about Frodo Baggins? Tolkien fans the world over celebrate March 25 as a day of celebration by the reading of Tolkien’s work. Why is that? Because the day Frodo Baggins saves his world by delivering the Ring into the fires of Mount Doom was (you guessed it) March 25. Ladyday–the feast of the Annunciation and the beginning of our world’s redemption.
So where did the date of Christmas originate? In 386, St John Chrysostom preached a sermon linking the date for Christmas to the date of the Annunciation. He does so in a way that suggests that this was already an established belief. The date of the Annunciation was based on a Jewish tradition that the world was created on March 25, or Nisan 15, according to the Jewish calendar. The Jews also believed that a great man would die on the same day as his conception. The early Christians (who were of course Jews) therefore concluded that Jesus had been conceived on March 25. This made it the date of the world’s creation, and the start of the world’s redemption (and therefore the new creation).
It’s easy. If the Lord Jesus Christ was conceived on March 25, then he was born nine months later on December 25. The date for Christmas is therefore determined by the date of the Annunciation and has nothing to do with the Roman celebration of the Saturnalia or the celebration of the birthday of Sol Invictus.
So Christmas Day cannot be separated from Ladyday–the medieval term for the Feast of the Annunciation. While we now (sadly) celebrate New Years’ Day on the pagan date Jan. 1, it was not always so. From the apostolic age through the Middle Ages, the church continued to battle the vestiges of paganism. So right through 1752, the new year was celebrated in Europe not at the outset of the pagan god Janus’s month, but on the Annunciation, March 25.
What about Frodo Baggins? Tolkien fans the world over celebrate March 25 as a day of celebration by the reading of Tolkien’s work. Why is that? Because the day Frodo Baggins saves his world by delivering the Ring into the fires of Mount Doom was (you guessed it) March 25. Ladyday–the feast of the Annunciation and the beginning of our world’s redemption.
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chris63 wrote:So where did the date of Christmas originate?
Pagan winter festivals.
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History of The Hobbit
http://www.tolkien-online.com/history-of-the-hobbit.html
http://www.tolkien-online.com/history-of-the-hobbit.html
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That looks quite good. I read the extract from the 'Mr Baggins' section and whilst most of it I knew from the annotated hobbit it does appear to be full of good insights and info.
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I bought The History of The Hobbit about a year ago as a box set that also includes the 70th Anniversary Edition of the book (which is quite nice). From the little I've read I found it quite interesting, but the work has some of the same accessibility issues as the denser volumes of the History of Middle-earth series. On the other hand, I just received The Annotated Hobbit for Christmas this year and I've found it, with the text of the book side-by-side as well as quite a few fascinating illustrations, to be far more engaging to read.
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I'm a big fan of the annotted verson for the reasons you outline Eldo- you can just tread the book, but if you want to dip into the extra info its all there unobtrusively on the same page.
And the illutartions are fasinating in all the different ways its been interpretated.
And the illutartions are fasinating in all the different ways its been interpretated.
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Got it read it liked it. Heavy going - but not really if you're a Purist... Even a "Purist-light" like me.
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Thats good enough for me.
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HAPPY 120th BIRTHDAY TOLKIEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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He'll be passing the Old Took at this rate! Happy Birthday Prof! But seeing as you can't drink it I'll just have it in your honour.
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Tolkien was born on 3 January, but yes, happy early birthday! Twelvety years: quite an accomplishment.
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Well in that case Eldo I shall have to have another drink on his behalf tomorrow as well- oh the hardship.
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Whoops! See I would've been much more sure if I had the legit Tolkien calendar, but instead I have a ROTK "special edition" one, (even tho I copied all LOTR related dates onto it )
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Look at it this way: it's 3 January in the world somewhere now and probably already was in Ozhobbitstan earlier. So it can be a gift to the Odos.
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Its the 3rd here
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120 years I'll raise my imaginary glass of buckie to the great man tonight!
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happy birthday Tolkien!
Anyone else than me who thinks it's immensely cool that Tolkien have lived through the first AND second world war?
Anyone else than me who thinks it's immensely cool that Tolkien have lived through the first AND second world war?
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