Re: Tolkien in General

by Elthir Thu Jul 12, 2012 7:45 pm

Hmm...

http://www.amazon.fr/Fall-Arthur-Deluxe-Edi-Hb/dp/0007489897/ref=sr_1_6?s=english-books&ie=UTF8&qid=1342094217&sr=1-6

Very interesting!

by Eldorion Thu Jul 12, 2012 11:37 pm

I heard about that earlier from a friend. It's exciting that they're still publishing Tolkien's unfinished works. I wonder just how much editing had to be done by the editor (I've heard both that it's Carl Hostetter and Christopher Tolkien; not sure which is true).

http://tolkiengateway.net/wiki/Fall_of_Arthur

by Mrs Figg Thu Jul 12, 2012 11:53 pm

It makes me feel guilty that I love the films and I dont think that is fair, no matter how much I sympathize and respect his views.

by Eldorion Fri Jul 13, 2012 12:04 am

chris63 wrote:Christopher Tolkien interview.

http://sedulia.blogs.com/sedulias_translations/2012/07/was-first-felt.html

That's a very interesting interview, although it's a little disappointing that it seemed to imply in the beginning that Christopher Tolkien had refused to talk to the media for 40 years. Generally speaking he's a private person, as is his write, but he has absolutely given interviews in the past. One of the more recent ones (perhaps the most recent until now) was given to The Guardian in 2009.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/books/2009/may/04/jrr-tolkien-sigurd-gudrun-poem

by Eldorion Fri Jul 13, 2012 12:08 am

Pettytyrant101 wrote:Scum! PJ likes to present this happy family image of his small production team but where are his morals about those he works for? Makes me sick to my stomach.

Deep breaths, Petty. Laughing

I see you've discovered the strange and magical world of Hollywood accounting. Yes, it's shady as hell and probably not entirely legal, but it has nothing to do with PJ. He got shafted out of money too, which he eventually settled in a lawsuit against New Line. That's why New Line said they would never work with PJ again at one point, though. Speaking of which...

Pettytyrant101 wrote:No, that we can do that and Tolkiens family don't see a penny of it or get a say in what sort of things the name Tolkien and Lord of the Rings gets put on.

...the Tolkien Estate also filed a lawsuit, which was settled out of court for an undisclosed sum which most likely numbered in the tens of millions of pounds. There were a lot of lawsuits against New Line after LOTR, but I'm pretty sure they've all been settled now.

by Eldorion Fri Jul 13, 2012 12:28 am

Ally wrote:Reading that makes me sad ... that we will never be able to play Lord of the Rings on Las Vegas slot machines

Actually, we can! While the Tolkien Estate would rather we not be able to, but when I was in Reno in June I came across a LOTR slot machine which I played on. Well, technically my mom played it and I stood behind her and surreptitiously pushed buttons until I got kicked out for being under 21. Laughing

But it's there! I had meant to post these pics sooner but I'll take the opportunity now. Smile

As soon as I saw it I knew I had to play this game, age be damned. Fortunately we had some vouchers that amounted to a couple dollars of free slot play so I didn't have to give the casino any of my own money.

Tolkien in General - Page 12 Slot2

I know absolutely nothing about slot machines or how to play them. This one was entirely digital and "spun" through a little animation.

Tolkien in General - Page 12 Slot3

I don't know if this was a good result or not, but I wish I had taken a picture when the screen said "ALL FRODOS WILD".

Tolkien in General - Page 12 Slot4

As you can see, we were very successful. Very Happy

by Elthir Fri Jul 13, 2012 3:56 am

Eldorion wrote: (...) (I've heard both that it's Carl Hostetter and Christopher Tolkien; not sure which is true).

I noted this exchange on the Book of Faces...

Pieter Collier Come on Carl F. Hostetter - I sort of know you do have something to do with this, or am I mistaken? Can you give us some info; Except from the fact that Tolkien worked on it for an extremely long time I don't know what it 'is'. I can guess of course, but somehow I think you have more info... am I correct?
9 hours ago · 1.

Johan Olin As usual, there is some secrecy in the Tolkien community... sigh. I thought Carl and his team were supposed to work on linguistic stuff, mainly Tolkien's invented languages, only.
9 hours ago.

Carl F. Hostetter Even if I were involved, Pieter, which I wasn't, and had any information to add beyond confirming that "The Fall of Arthur" is being published, which I don't, I wouldn't, because when somebody tells me something in confidence I respect that. And that's not "secrecy in the community," Johan (lamentable or otherwise), it's simply honorable behavior.

https://www.facebook.com/pieter.collier/posts/10151096244088792

by Eldorion Fri Jul 13, 2012 4:17 am

Yeah, that pretty much confirms that this is a Christopher Tolkien-edited book as far as I'm concerned. Neat stuff. Thanks, Elthir! Very Happy

NB I guess I'm the only one interested in LOTR slot-machines. Sad

by Pettytyrant101 Fri Jul 13, 2012 4:22 am

I'm too horrified and angry to comment Eldo. Extremely Crabbit

by Eldorion Fri Jul 13, 2012 4:27 am

I was horrified and angry that we only won 20 cents. Not that I put any money in to begin with, but still! Mad

by Pettytyrant101 Fri Jul 13, 2012 4:31 am

The House always wins Eldo- and its never your house. Mugs game Mad

(I used to work for a brief time in my youth humphing slot machines about and taking them for repair- they have a switch inside -this was 20 years ago mind- which regulated how often it payed out-they are completely rigged)

by Eldorion Fri Jul 13, 2012 4:33 am

I realize that casinos are rigged but I thought it was hilarious just how little we got and that it actually gave us a receipt for 20 cents. Laughing

Also, I read your post as saying you humped slot machines as a youth, which had me worried for a second. Suspect

by Pettytyrant101 Fri Jul 13, 2012 4:45 am

Only during down time Eldo. Wink

Besides, not my fault the guy said they were slot-machines and I misheard him.

by Eldorion Fri Jul 13, 2012 4:49 am

No wonder they needed to be repaired! Shocked

by odo banks Sat Jul 14, 2012 11:37 pm

by Ally Sun Jul 15, 2012 12:02 am

Eldorion wrote:Yeah, that pretty much confirms that this is a Christopher Tolkien-edited book as far as I'm concerned. Neat stuff. Thanks, Elthir!

NB I guess I'm the only one interested in LOTR slot-machines.

Even though you quite clearly saw me post of them earlier What a Face

whoops, wrong one Rolling Eyes

by Eldorion Sun Jul 15, 2012 12:16 am

I figured you were a given, though my story didn't seem to interest you. Mad

by Ally Sun Jul 15, 2012 12:24 am

It was interesting I just didn't have any follow up questions or witty remarks x

Anyway, phone away you're at a concert!

by Eldorion Sun Jul 15, 2012 12:29 am

Actually I'm batting bugs away while waiting for the concert (which is outdoors at a park) to start once its dark enough for fireworks.

We should have brought bug spray. Evil or Very Mad

by Ally Sun Jul 15, 2012 1:06 am

I always carry some around in my handbag when I go outside, because you know, JUST IN CASE. Haha, no I dont because I don't go outside!

Remember the bugs are not as scared as you (is that right) because fireworks are loud.

by Pettytyrant101 Sun Jul 15, 2012 1:08 am

Take up smoking. Nod

Works with midgies will work with anything.

by Ally Sun Jul 15, 2012 1:18 am

Apart from, er, you know, health in general and acceptance from society.

Plus, speaking from experience, all the friends you make from smoking are the worst (as a teen)!

by Pettytyrant101 Sun Jul 15, 2012 1:23 am

Well I didn't say it was good for you-buckie is not good for you, deep fried battered pizza isnt good for- but is life really worth living without it?

by Ally Sun Jul 15, 2012 1:29 am

Damit Petty I spent years with the pretence that deep fried pizza is gd 4 u, and you just have to shatter it!

Also we are only talking about bug repellent here, not the quest to true enlightenment

by Mrs Figg Sun Jul 15, 2012 11:51 am

I really hope you dont smoke Petty, its a disgusting habit, and it will make your sporan stink like an old ashtray. Mad