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Re: HAPPY BIRTHDAY PETTY
Fantastic! Happy Belated Birthday Petty! Although I'm not too happy about having to sail around the world searching for the last remaining bottles of Buckie as a result of the party we had on Valinor.....
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Eldorion wrote:Buckie cake?! issuchathingevenpossible.gif
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Angmar and Sons will be in touch Blue!
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Re: HAPPY BIRTHDAY PETTY
its the News of the World all over again.
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Oh, didn't you like it? Oh, well. It was just a silly idea really, based mostly on some tounge in cheek comments you made about the quality of their journalism and that I thought you deserved some attention from them too.
I will of course respond to any legal communications forthwith.
I will of course respond to any legal communications forthwith.
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Blue............"I will of course respond to any legal communications forthwith."
{{{ using a false name & address }}}
{{{I thought the idea was a good one Blue }}}
{{{ using a false name & address }}}
{{{I thought the idea was a good one Blue }}}
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"Poste restante in Argentina."
As one of my teachers used to say about the possibility of catching anyone who swindled you, if he didn't want that to be the case in his current example.
I guess the thing about comedy is that it doesn't always translate.. or relate. And if that's the case, I guess all one can hope for is that it doesn't offend.
As one of my teachers used to say about the possibility of catching anyone who swindled you, if he didn't want that to be the case in his current example.
I guess the thing about comedy is that it doesn't always translate.. or relate. And if that's the case, I guess all one can hope for is that it doesn't offend.
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Oh, didn't you like it?- Blue
Of course I did! Thank you for doing it.
But I am afraid the actions of Pure Publications and their troll International Media Magnet Head, Bear Muirdock, and their legal wing, Angmar and Sons are well outwith my control.
You should see my contract, and I only deliver the bloody thing, the small print contains small print.
Of course I did! Thank you for doing it.
But I am afraid the actions of Pure Publications and their troll International Media Magnet Head, Bear Muirdock, and their legal wing, Angmar and Sons are well outwith my control.
You should see my contract, and I only deliver the bloody thing, the small print contains small print.
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Ah, haha. God. Well, I'm glad you liked it. The last thing I needed was for another person on here to be angry with me.
Looking at this from a legal point of view for a second (as it amuses me), a court case about this might actually be interesting.
As a copyright breach I don't think they would have a case, first as I'm not sure I reproduced any copyrighted information, and even if I had, the fact that it's a parody I think is quite obviuos. And parodies are exempt from normal copyright protection.
The question then is wether, if we assume the NotP logo is a registered trademark, there might a trademark breach here. Now, the same rules apply as far as exemption from the rights of trademark holder in case of parody. But aside from the actual content of the released material, which I would say is an obvious parody, the actual NotP logo is exactly the same as in a normal NotP release. The legal question would then be if this is likely to confuse people, in as far as they would wonder if this was an actual NotP release, or, if not, if it would imply some kind of financial connection betwen me and the NotP.
In other words, the considerations of an exemption as a parody would be a different and stricter consideration under trademark rules
So, it's possible they might have a case there. Perhaps seeing the whole released parody front page, which so obviously is not up to the level of a normal NotP release, would make any confusion as to origin unlikely. But it's definitely not a clear cut question, with the trademark reproduced exactly, as it is.
Yeah.. an interesting pondery.
Looking at this from a legal point of view for a second (as it amuses me), a court case about this might actually be interesting.
As a copyright breach I don't think they would have a case, first as I'm not sure I reproduced any copyrighted information, and even if I had, the fact that it's a parody I think is quite obviuos. And parodies are exempt from normal copyright protection.
The question then is wether, if we assume the NotP logo is a registered trademark, there might a trademark breach here. Now, the same rules apply as far as exemption from the rights of trademark holder in case of parody. But aside from the actual content of the released material, which I would say is an obvious parody, the actual NotP logo is exactly the same as in a normal NotP release. The legal question would then be if this is likely to confuse people, in as far as they would wonder if this was an actual NotP release, or, if not, if it would imply some kind of financial connection betwen me and the NotP.
In other words, the considerations of an exemption as a parody would be a different and stricter consideration under trademark rules
So, it's possible they might have a case there. Perhaps seeing the whole released parody front page, which so obviously is not up to the level of a normal NotP release, would make any confusion as to origin unlikely. But it's definitely not a clear cut question, with the trademark reproduced exactly, as it is.
Yeah.. an interesting pondery.
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The legal beagle is biting the bone.
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I'll not be beaten that easily.
I'll primarily hold that this as a parody does not constitute a trademark breach.
I'll subsidiarily hold that there is no confusion of origin or implication of financial connection, and therefore no trademark breach.
If that doesn't work I'll tertiarily hold that the NotP has relinquished it's trademark protection through non use. (Below the belt perhaps, but this is litigation.)
And if that doesn't work.. Well, there's always Argentina.
I'll primarily hold that this as a parody does not constitute a trademark breach.
I'll subsidiarily hold that there is no confusion of origin or implication of financial connection, and therefore no trademark breach.
If that doesn't work I'll tertiarily hold that the NotP has relinquished it's trademark protection through non use. (Below the belt perhaps, but this is litigation.)
And if that doesn't work.. Well, there's always Argentina.
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Ah.. that seems to have dealt with it.
Goodgood.
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Forumshire being Forumshire thats wot !
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Ah.. that seems to have dealt with it.- Blue
Angmar and Sons are considering their position{{Between you and me they dont like dealing with fellow lawyers, preferring to take people to court who know absolutely nothing about what is going on}}}
Angmar and Sons are considering their position{{Between you and me they dont like dealing with fellow lawyers, preferring to take people to court who know absolutely nothing about what is going on}}}
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{{{Obviously. We could have a look at that contract of yours, you know. Ambiguity in the meaning of something in a contract is as a basic contract law principle interpreted to the benefit of the one who didn't draft it. Which I guess would be you.}}}
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We could have a look at that contract of yours- Blue
You mean I have to go dig it back up (I mean that literally I got so crabbit at the bloody thing I buried it)
You mean I have to go dig it back up (I mean that literally I got so crabbit at the bloody thing I buried it)
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Ah, well. Perhaps compost was the best use for it.
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Re: HAPPY BIRTHDAY PETTY
are we having a NotP for Pettys birthday? or just cos.
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I made one, yeah. Which led to the present legal.. considerations.
It's on the last page.
It's on the last page.
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hmm wheres the Hobbit Lass page 3?
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Wherever she is, she's probably hung over..
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{{{{{Figg it always feels rather weird, self indulgent to make myself a birthday edition. But never fear the NotP is returning with a new look- well newish}}}}
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Um.. do I have something to look forward too?
The thought of an NotP edition devoted to me is a bit daunting at the moment, considering the current legal.. err.. predicament I'm in with their proprietor.
The thought of an NotP edition devoted to me is a bit daunting at the moment, considering the current legal.. err.. predicament I'm in with their proprietor.
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