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Post by Norc Mon Feb 06, 2012 8:17 am

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Anything Moffat writes is golden. Seeing his name attached to an actor with the improbably British name "Benedict Cumberbatch" had me in a tizzy before I even saw the first episode. I mean, that name's right up there with Basil Rathbone.

He do have a very funny name Very Happy
season one is here I believe, dunno about season two, probably not Smile
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Post by halfwise Mon Feb 06, 2012 2:54 pm

Ah, thanks for pointing out it arrived in the US, Eldo. I had checked not so long ago and it wasn't available. It's on Netflix, score!
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Post by Eldorion Mon Feb 06, 2012 3:48 pm

Glad I could help. Very Happy Enjoy!
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Post by chris63 Sat Feb 11, 2012 1:57 am

http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/ipad/fames-elementary-for-high-tech-holmes/story-fn3o6wog-1226266724129
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Post by Pettytyrant101 Tue Feb 14, 2012 2:06 pm

An interesting piece from the Guardian which hopefullymight spark some heated debate! Twisted Evil

This concerns the first episode of series two and is full of spoilers start to finish. DO NOT read if you have not watched this episode yet!!!

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Post by Kafria Tue Feb 14, 2012 2:56 pm

Oh what rot, what happened to simply enjoying the story? Rolling Eyes

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Post by Pettytyrant101 Tue Feb 14, 2012 3:32 pm

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Post by Norc Tue Feb 14, 2012 10:26 pm

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Post by Eldorion Tue Feb 14, 2012 10:31 pm

It definitely takes time to let it all sink in. I had to watch the episode two or three times to really absorb it all. But I love it. Very Happy

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Post by Norc Tue Feb 14, 2012 10:39 pm

Eldorion wrote:It definitely takes time to let it all sink in. I had to watch the episode two or three times to really absorb it all. But I love it. Very Happy

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I might have to see it again as well.. Razz
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Post by Ringdrotten Tue Feb 14, 2012 11:05 pm

Caught half an episode on the telly today, looked promising! Very Happy Won't read any of the spoilers yet, but this is a show I'm looking forward to Smile

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Post by Amarië Tue Feb 14, 2012 11:10 pm

Watch your step at Fjordlandia Viking Bar & kaffistove then, you might trip over some spoilers there. Besides one (or two-ish) tiny detail(s), I am head over heals in love with Sherlock and the whole show. I love you

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Post by Norc Tue Feb 14, 2012 11:17 pm

I am putting this one in a spoiler bar, just in case, but it really isn't a spoiler. Just a nerdy violin fact Wink
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Post by Amarië Wed Feb 15, 2012 8:24 am

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Post by Norc Wed Feb 15, 2012 9:57 am

It looks that way, but I don't think so. He surely has it looking good though, so who knows Wink
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Post by Eldorion Wed Feb 15, 2012 4:14 pm

The Guardian had a very interesting article about Sherlock's violin playing shortly after the episode aired. Smile

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Post by Amarië Wed Feb 15, 2012 4:29 pm

It was clear that he had done his homework. Nod

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Post by Norc Wed Feb 15, 2012 4:55 pm

Eldorion wrote:The Guardian had a very interesting article about Sherlock's violin playing shortly after the episode aired. Smile

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Post by Kafria Fri Feb 17, 2012 11:17 am

So how would you describe Sherlock?

(just a note, although this itself doesn't have footage past season one other vids on the channel do!- you have been warned!)


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Post by Amarië Fri Feb 17, 2012 11:31 am

LOVED IT! XD

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Post by Norc Fri Feb 17, 2012 1:56 pm

lol!
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Post by halfwise Tue Mar 06, 2012 2:51 am

For those who don't have the DVD version, they have the writers providing commentary over the first episode.

What really stuck out to me was they describe Benedict Cumberbatch as being nothing like Sherlock Holmes in person, in fact they describe him as a bit of a lovable bumbler. Also that each actor who read for Watson produced a different reaction from B.C., and part of finding the character of Holmes seen on screen came through finding the right Watson. It's fun to think how completely the actors inhabit the part.

It was remarkable just how well they knew the tidbits of Doyle's canon, as well as all the film versions. They made the interesting decision to place equal weight on everything produced on Holmes. Also fascinating tidbits on their decision-making process while updating. Doyle's Holmes was constantly firing off telegrams, and when the telephone arrived one was installed in 221B. A very computer savy Holmes was the modern analog. Most adaptations like to make reference to the cocaine use, but they noted it had a very different flavor when translated into the modern age. In victorian times cocaine use had a hint of exoticism about it, but today it's mainly associated with wastrels. So to be more true to the spirit of the original, it was cut.

I found the commentary hard to follow most of the time, I think because they didn't bother to get anyone competent doing the sound for them - it wasn't crystal clear like the LoTR commentaries.

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Post by Pettytyrant101 Tue Mar 06, 2012 6:21 am

Moffat and Gatiss who created the show are both huge fans of the originals and know them inside out- I listened to them on a radio interview going into great detail on the originals. I have mixed feelings about dropping Holmes drug use- the first series hinted that he had a problem in the past with drugs (most notably the episode where Lestrade searches his flat) but I felt the second series completely shied away from this and switched the emphahsis of that aspect to cigarrettes.
That's fine if you are addressing the issue of addiction, but Holmes was never an addict as such- he used it to stimulate his mind between cases because he went crazy otherwise. Cigarrettes do not have the same effect at all and I feel if anything is missing from their version of Holmes it is that side to him.

The Brett version covered it excellently I thought;


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Post by Eldorion Tue Mar 06, 2012 6:37 am

Pettytyrant101 wrote:I have mixed feelings about dropping Holmes drug use- the first series hinted that he had a problem in the past with drugs (most notably the episode where Lestrade searches his flat) but I felt the second series completely shied away from this and switched the emphahsis of that aspect to cigarrettes.

I actually felt that the second series addressed this at least as much in the first episode (A Scandal in Belgravia) right after Irene Adler's apparent death. Mycroft did give Sherlock a cigarette, but it was apparently a test, as referred to in the phone call between Mycroft and John, to see if it was a "danger night". It's also implied that John and Mrs Hudson had searched Sherlock's room for drugs and that they were very concerned he would relapse. Maybe I'm reading too much into it but that's what I got from the episode. I don't think came up elsewhere in the second series but I'm not sure if the first series mentioned it outside the very first episode either.
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Post by Pettytyrant101 Tue Mar 06, 2012 7:03 am

I thought that about that episode myself Eldo until the scene when he is hunting about the flat despertely looking and it turns out to be for cigs. It seemed a safe option to me, it could be read as you did but there is no hard reference to confirm it- only reference to cigs.

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