Re: A Song of Ice and Fire [2]

by Eldorion Sat Jun 18, 2016 7:19 pm

Last I heard he put the fourth novella (which people had been calling "The She-Wolves of Winterfell" though apparently that's only a placeholder title) on hold until he finishes TWOW. His comments have seemed to imply that he plans on taking a break from mainline ASOIAF after that but given how that strategy worked out post-ADWD who knows if he will. Some of his ideas (like Fire and Blood, formerly the The GRRMarillion) are apparently on hold until the entire main series is complete.

by Ringdrotten Sat Jun 18, 2016 8:00 pm

In other words, we'll never see the ending of either series Laughing

by Bluebottle Tue Mar 12, 2019 1:59 am

Yikes, last post in 2016 no less. I presume it is still thumbleweeds? scratch

by halfwise Tue Mar 12, 2019 2:52 am

Until GRRM rouses himself we are left awaiting the TV series to provide some faint shadow of how the story goes. Once the book finally comes out we'll have to remind ourselves that it's got it's own thread.

by Forest Shepherd Tue Mar 12, 2019 5:38 am

Thumbleweeds indeed!

by Lancebloke Tue Mar 12, 2019 7:57 am

I cant remember most of what is going on in the books now... been about 5 years since I read the last one. I am not reading them again! Not sure if I will actually bother with TWoW or ADoS if the latter ever comes out.

by halfwise Tue Mar 12, 2019 12:16 pm

I'm not sure if the show provokes more or less interest in the books. Now I want to read them in part to see how they diverge from the show. But if there was no show I'd feel no choice but to read them.

by halfwise Fri Apr 02, 2021 2:32 pm

https://www.insider.com/george-rr-martin-will-finish-winds-of-winter-2021-3

pairs nicely with

https://www.insider.com/why-winds-of-winter-is-taking-so-long-2017-1

by Lancebloke Sat Apr 03, 2021 3:41 pm

I have a feeling that GRRM is having trouble tying everything up.

I missed your comment last year halfy but the books get a bit long winded in some parts and I found them hard to read. The web of people and places and history is more intricate than the Tolkien universe (in my opinion anyway) and that makes it both better and worse in terms of creating a world.

I think it is plain to see through all of the revisions that Tolkien struggled, I think George is probably having the same problem but with the addition of having the TV show already rush the ending in what many found unsatisfying.

If he ever does finish Winds of Winter I am not sure if he will ever finish A Dream of Spring.

by halfwise Sat Apr 03, 2021 4:20 pm

I think we'll get WoW but someone else will have to finish A Dream of Spring based on some fragments he'll have written and an outline (though he doesn't really outline the show gives some pointers). It will never be accepted as canon.

by Ringdrotten Sun Apr 04, 2021 3:42 pm

halfwise wrote:I think we'll get WoW but someone else will have to finish A Dream of Spring based on some fragments he'll have written and an outline (though he doesn't really outline the show gives some pointers). It will never be accepted as canon.

Hmm, that depends - The Wheel of Time series' last book was finished by another author (though he had lots to work with), and the vast majority of fans were satisfied. If it comes to that, it all depends on which author and how much material he/she is given to work with, I guess. But it can be done very well Smile

by halfwise Thu Jan 06, 2022 6:08 pm

GRRM has seen the pilot for House of the dragon and loved it.

The new year is almost at hand, and with it will come all manner of new television shows, on network, cable, and streamers.

I have got to confess, I was chuffed to read that the most anticipated new show, according to IMDB, was…

(drum roll, please)

HOUSE OF THE DRAGON!

https://movieweb.com/house-of-the-dragon-imdb-most-anticipated-original-tv-series-2022/

That’s a hell of a list to be at the top of, too. Amazon’s new Tolkien series? Neil Gaiman’s SANDMAN? Marvel shows? STAR WARS shows?

Good company.

I am anticipating HOUSE OF THE DRAGON pretty eagerly myself, for what it’s worth. Okay, I am hardly objective. And I know a lot of what you will be seeing. (I, um, wrote the book). Also … mum’s the word now, don’t tell anyone… I’ve seen a rough cut of the first episode. And loved it. It’s dark, it’s powerful, it’s visceral… just the way I like my epic fantasy.

Ryan and Miguel have done an amazing job, and the cast… just as with GAME OF THRONES, most viewers will only have heard of a few of the actors, but I think you are going to fall in love with a lot of them. (Only to have your heart broken later when… but no, that would be telling).

I think the Targaryens are in very good hands.

Anticipate away. I do not think you will be disappointed.

From https://georgerrmartin.com/notablog/

by halfwise Tue Feb 22, 2022 1:53 pm

So GRRM released a picture of the showrunners and writers for House of the Dragon. He showered praise on them in his not a blog website, but I can't help feeling that they look so young. GRRM's writing did not come from youth, it came from experience, and I fear this show will suffer as a result of a writing team who hasn't suffered enough or screwed up enough to learn some humility and wisdom.

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by Mrs Figg Thu May 05, 2022 9:05 pm

new trailer Very Happy

by halfwise Thu May 05, 2022 9:40 pm

No real reaction. I was annoyed by the modern hairstyles in the front picture before I watched it, but thankfully that was an aberration. Some stuff in there looks good but I can't tell what's going on. And "History does not remember blood....it remembers names." : what the hell? Is that supposed to send a shiver down my spine? It starts out great and then fizzles. Let's try rewriting that baby, shall we?

"History does not remember blood...it remembers conquest."

"History does not remember blood...it remembers fire."

"History does not remember how much blood flowed...only who won."

by Mrs Figg Thu May 05, 2022 11:04 pm

I got a shiver, I cant deny that music gave me chills. Razz

by halfwise Fri May 06, 2022 12:48 am

Yeah, the music was good. Smile

by Forest Shepherd Fri May 06, 2022 8:29 pm

Uhh yeah the last line is half-baked.

Sick of this feminist-queen nonsense. What are the writers modeling the setting's system of governance on that a Queen Regent or Queen Regnant is abhorrent to the nobility?

by halfwise Fri May 06, 2022 8:39 pm

Yep, Elizabeth I should quash that thought; in fact I don't recall that there ever was complaint about her being a woman. It was all about religion.

by Mrs Figg Fri May 06, 2022 8:57 pm

It was all about her being the only surviving child of the Tudor king. it didn't matter that she was a woman they wanted Henry's kids.

by halfwise Fri May 06, 2022 9:20 pm

All the controversy was about catholic/protestant. What a whiplash of a country that was back then.

by halfwise Thu Jun 02, 2022 10:52 pm

by halfwise Fri Jun 17, 2022 7:55 pm

https://theweek.com/news/1014473/kit-harington-to-reportedly-return-for-a-game-of-thrones-sequel-series

So there's a plan to create a sequel based on nothing GRRM ever wrote, using many of the actors from GOT. Talk about a money grab.

by chris63 Fri Jul 01, 2022 12:33 pm

Just reminiscing. One of my favourite scenes.

by chris63 Fri Jul 01, 2022 12:46 pm