Just...................whatever

Both of them are modified for training. The usual Spitfire or Hurricane is single seater.

{{ I was pretty sure they were, but then second guessed myself on if it had a rear gunner. But how do they get the space for a second pilot in a single seater? Have they extended the airframe length somehow? Or is it just put in the empty space that would be inside the frame behind the pilot? }}

My guess is there's plenty of empty space in the hull, which is just an aerodynamic way to keep the wings, props, and control structures on the tail in proper physical orientation to each other.  They'd either have to move the pilot seat or counterweight to keep the center of mass in the right position.

two middle ages dudes being adorable while discussing the Greenwich Meridian.

From what I understand, and I believe there have been different methods used, the front cockpit is moved forward and the rear cockpit is added with some reinforcements between.

I also think that one of the fuel tanks is removed that would be somewhere in that part of the fuselage.

A picture from the Spitfire:

{{ Thats an amazing photo Lance. And my God England is like a table top is so flat! }}

Stunning, looks peaceful. The world looks the way you want it to be from up there

" After every flight, UPS pilots fill out a form, called a "gripe sheet" which tells mechanics about problems with the aircraft. The mechanics correct the problems, documnt their repairs on the form, then pilots review the gripe sheets before the next flight.
Never let it be said that ground crews lack a sense of humor. Here are actual maintenance complaints submittd by UPS pilots ("P") and solutions recorded ("S") by maintenance engineers:
P: Left inside main tire almost needs replacement.
S: Almost replaced left inside main tire.
P: Test flight OK, except auto-land very rough.
S: Auto-land not installed on this aircraft.
P: Something loose in cockpit
S: Something tightened in cockpit
P: Dead bugs on windshield.
S: Live bugs on back-order.
P: Autopilot in altitude-hold mode produces a 200 feet per minute descent
S: Cannot reproduce problem on ground.
P: Evidence of leak on right main landing gear.
S: Evidence removed.
P: DME volume unbelievably loud.
S: DME volume set to more believable level.
P: Friction locks cause throttle levers to stick.
S: That's what friction locks are for.
P: IFF inoperative in OFF mode.
S: IFF always inoperative in OFF mode.
P: Suspected crack in windshield.
S: Suspect you're right.
P: Number 3 engine missing.
S: Engine found on right wing after brief search.
P: Aircraft handles funny.
S: Aircraft warned to: straighten up, fly right, and be serious.
P: Target radar hums.
S: Reprogrammed target radar with lyrics.
P: Mouse in cockpit.
S: Cat installed.
P: Noise coming from under instrument panel. Sounds like a midget poundng on something with a hammer.
S: Took hammer away from midget "

Pettytyrant101 wrote:{{ Thats an amazing photo Lance. And my God England is like a table top is so flat! }}

The South East is generally very flat. Those fields are Cambridgeshire (we flew from Duxford) so need to get further north or west before any real topography becomes a thing.

Az - it looks peaceful in the photo. For the real effect you need to play the sound of a Spitfire engine over the top. Not peaceful but satisfying

Oh I love the sound of an engine. Where I am we have a display called "Airbourne ", its on for 2 or 3 days every August, pulls all the crowds. A Lancaster just went over as Im typing this and it fair shook the building ! Best place to see and hear the planes is up on The Downs, make a picnic, grab a blanket and watch the town and seafront below you and then, that magical moment when a plane goes over and you look up into the belly of it takes your breath away, and if your lucky a pilot will wave at you !

Oh Lance ! Happy Birthday !!!!!

azriel wrote:Oh I love the sound of an engine. Where I am we have a display called "Airbourne ", its on for 2 or 3 days every August, pulls all the crowds. A Lancaster just went over as Im typing this and it fair shook the building ! Best place to see and hear the planes is up on The Downs, make a picnic, grab a blanket and watch the town and seafront below you and then, that magical moment when a plane goes over and you look up into the belly of it takes your breath away, and if your lucky a pilot will wave at you !

The Lancaster and Typhoon are based near me so saw them both today too.

And thanks for your other post.

I've seen this before, but it never grows old. I do wonder how much is from the same 1 or 2 mechanics.

azriel wrote:" After every flight, UPS pilots fill out a form, called a "gripe sheet" which tells mechanics about problems with the aircraft. The mechanics correct the problems, documnt their repairs on the form, then pilots review the gripe sheets before the next flight.
Never let it be said that ground crews lack a sense of humor. Here are actual maintenance complaints submittd by UPS pilots ("P") and solutions recorded ("S") by maintenance engineers:
P: Left inside main tire almost needs replacement.
S: Almost replaced left inside main tire.
P: Test flight OK, except auto-land very rough.
S: Auto-land not installed on this aircraft.
P: Something loose in cockpit
S: Something tightened in cockpit
P: Dead bugs on windshield.
S: Live bugs on back-order.
P: Autopilot in altitude-hold mode produces a 200 feet per minute descent
S: Cannot reproduce problem on ground.
P: Evidence of leak on right main landing gear.
S: Evidence removed.
P: DME volume unbelievably loud.
S: DME volume set to more believable level.
P: Friction locks cause throttle levers to stick.
S: That's what friction locks are for.
P: IFF inoperative in OFF mode.
S: IFF always inoperative in OFF mode.
P: Suspected crack in windshield.
S: Suspect you're right.
P: Number 3 engine missing.
S: Engine found on right wing after brief search.
P: Aircraft handles funny.
S: Aircraft warned to: straighten up, fly right, and be serious.
P: Target radar hums.
S: Reprogrammed target radar with lyrics.
P: Mouse in cockpit.
S: Cat installed.
P: Noise coming from under instrument panel. Sounds like a midget poundng on something with a hammer.
S: Took hammer away from midget "

Nose hair joke

{{ Someone asked me to translate this for them, I did, but thought might be fun to give folk here a go too. }}

Wut?

something about a "tear in his eye " ??

{{ "Ach, lang mae yer lum reek an may a moose ne'er lee ur girnel wi a tear drap in his eye. Haste yi back wee lassie."

Literal translation-

Spoiler:

I think Az gets the points, she was closest.


edit add - It seems this scene is one of the most mistranslated in film! The foreign dubs are hysterical, its clear almost none of them had a clue what she was actually saying and thought the joke was supposed to be that its just gibberish, rather than it only sounds like gibberish. So most of the dubs are just, odd.

For example the Swedish dub translates as -

"Yeah, and remember that ankle dancing pays for a violinist and a pretty face fits even a dishcloth, and Ill sleep with a tutu in my pants for a very long time."    

A common translation thing with this is to use archaic forms of whatever language the dub is in, so in the Greek version she slips continually into a jumbled form of Ancient Greek. In Arabic its similar where she says random jumbled phrases in older dialects.

The only one thats close to the original meaning is Spanish-

Spoiler:

In German its just random phrases thrown together such as, "the caravan has to go even if a child falls into the well. You can earn a lot of money crafting even when you had bad luck."

Seems Disney might have provided the english worded script for translation, but not the translation of Scots dialect into english. }}}

I just got in from a 11 hour night shift at work so I'm half asleep but thought I'd drop in to wave hello and I just noticed how close I am getting to to 5,000 posts here

Been feeling a bit nostaglic recently and started musing on how much time I've spent here over the years (albeit less so as an active poster in the last couple of years). I've never been a member of any community (online or otherwise) this long and although I don't drop by anywhere near as much as I used to, it's always nice to stop by and wave hello or even just read and see how you are all doing, long may it continue

Considering it started life as a fan forum for a series of films that released a decade ago, it's remarkable to have lasted this long (especially considering internet forums were dying even back then) i.m.o. Though looking back I find it a bit funny I spent so much time discusing and arguing about The Hobbit films when I haven't actually properly rewatched them since they came out, all my complaints and worries over the films ended up leading to indifference to the final result.

And then I remembered I joined the forum in 2013 ...so now I not only feel tired and nostaglic...but also old...

Haste yi back, wee laddie!

Yep, This place is a friendly back bone. A comfort to know its here.