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Post by Lancebloke Wed Aug 25, 2021 8:23 am

Also, I am totally against forced vaccination except in extreme circumstances, which this is not.

The main reason for that is the science is not infallible and there have been instances before of vaccines causing life limiting or ending disease. 

I should have the right to say no now or in the future if I genuinely belive that it is going to damage my health. People were ridiculed before but it turned out they were right.
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Post by halfwise Wed Aug 25, 2021 11:32 am

I think the option of being vaccinated, proof of recent infection, or frequent testing is reasonable for entry to work or certain businesses.

The immune system is complicated. I'm not sure that exposure to more proteins would make the reaction more specific to a specific variant or not. I can see it going both ways.

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Post by Mrs Figg Wed Aug 25, 2021 2:24 pm

Any exposure is Russian Roulette and I don't want to take that chance. You might be ok you might not. Waning vaccines can be boosted, that's what we do for the flu jab anyway. Many other vaccines have been mandatory and nobody has kicked up a stink to the point of invading TV stations and behaving like alt-right nutters. The Polio vaccine has saved millions of lives, as has TB, Measles and other nasty childhood diseases. Mandatory vaccination is not some sinister government plot to take our 'freedoms' away, its done to save lives. People must be forced to have it and if they refuse they should be denied access to certain jobs and public places. This is NOT Thalidomide. You cant refuse to stop smoking on a bus or train and surely that is taking your 'freedom' away, but people have to do it for others if not themselves. I think refusing a covid vaccine on sketchy half-arsed grounds after something someone said on FB or Youtube is the height of selfishness. Thats what that idiot ex-nurse and Piers Corbyn wants, and I will be fuqued if I allow them to take my freedoms away.


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Post by Mrs Figg Wed Aug 25, 2021 2:49 pm

Here the Green Pass is compulsory for,

-university students, schools -children over 12
- aircraft used for commercial passenger transport services;
- ships and ferries used for interregional transport services, with the exception of those used for maritime connections in the Strait of Messina;
- trains used in Inter City, Inter City Night and High Speed ​​passenger rail transport services;
- buses used for passenger transport services, with an undifferentiated offer, carried out on the road continuously or periodically on a route that connects more than two regions and with pre-established itineraries, timetables, frequencies and prices; buses used for rental services with driver, with the exception of those used in additional local and regional public transport services.
- The use of other means of transport can also take place without a green pass, subject to compliance with anti-contagion measures ".
- catering services provided by any establishment for consumption at the table, indoors;
- shows open to the public, sporting events and competitions;
- museums, other institutes and places of culture and exhibitions;
- swimming pools, swimming centers, gyms, team sports, wellness centers, even within accommodation facilities, limited to indoor activities;
- festivals and fairs, conferences and congresses;
- spas, theme and amusement parks;
- cultural centers, social and recreational centers, limited to indoor activities and with the exception of educational centers for children, including summer centers, and related catering activities;
- gaming rooms, betting rooms, bingo halls and casinos;
- public competitions

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Post by Lancebloke Thu Aug 26, 2021 10:31 am

So you think people should be forced to get a vaccine? Why should we also not force people to eat healthily and exercise and get proper sleep?

90%+ of people that end up in hospital and dying have 4+ co-morbidities that. Maybe if people were healthy then the 99%+ people that get through the virus with no issues wouldn't have to limit their lives or be potentially forced to have a vaccine.

Is that not selfish on their behalf?
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Post by Mrs Figg Thu Aug 26, 2021 2:55 pm

I dont understand your argument.

Children are mandated certain vaccines, only the anti-vaxxers kick up a stink about the MMR vaccine, and then their children get sick and die. The parents who do that are as terrible as those who refuse to give blood transfusions to their kids because of their 'religion'. People don't have the freedom to damage their kids. Here, if one parent is an anti-vaxxer and the other parent isnt, it is the child who gets the final say. The parent who refuses to vaccinate their kids has no say in the matter because it is in the 'best interest' of the kid to be vaccinated, its now the law. Plus kids over 12 who are not vaccinated cant get a Green Pass and therefore cant go to school which is against the law. Slowly life is being made impossible for the anti-vaxxers to spread their conspiracy crap. My neighbour is one of those women who spends too much time on Youtube and has scared herself into silly housewife anti-vaxxery, because she is a bird brain she believes all the quack science, she told me she was more scared of the vaccine than becoming sick, and she tried to turn me, with zero success. Rolling Eyes I asked her two questions, how many have died with covid and how many have died of the vaccine. nuff said. People take more risks using Botox than this vaccine.
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Post by Lancebloke Thu Aug 26, 2021 3:43 pm

I dont disagree with you about whether people should get vaccinated, it is whether they must.

If they must then that naturally brings a whole load of other things in to question.

We don't completely ban smoking or drinking even though there are clear causal links with lung cancer and secondary smoking or drinking driving accidents.

We don't force people to get vaccines for everything even though that may result in transmission to someone who could die from it. 

There is an element of risk involved in pretty much everything we do and many of those things involve one person's actions impacting another.

In this case, I dont understand the argument that says other people must get a vaccine for something that they belive (and is based in stats) will be unlikely to be anything more than a nasty cold, people who are worried can easily get a vaccine and, to my earlier point, may be a logical next step to be exposed to the virus before immunity wanes to have better overall protection.

There is no reason at all, in my opinion, why we should make this mandatory especially where there definitely are risks involved, albeit minor and likely less that if that person caught the virus.
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Post by halfwise Thu Aug 26, 2021 5:48 pm

If the vaccination stopped the spread I would disagree with you, but as it seems to only slow the delta variant I would say strongly encouraged (by things like mandatory testing otherwise) but not strictly mandated.

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Post by Mrs Figg Thu Aug 26, 2021 6:57 pm

The thing is, and for me the most important thing, is that it might be a nasty cold for one person and fatal for another seemingly young and healthy person. We don't know before, and afterwards its too late. Why risk it when all you have to do is toddle down to the vaccination centre and get jabbed. Its easy, doesn't effect your life in a negative way and doesn't stop you being 'free'. Because it doesn't stop transmission, everyone needs to be jabbed for it to be safe for everyone, call it hive protection, same as if Africans are not jabbed it makes it unsafe for the world. If Africans and South Americans are not getting jabbed, new variants emerge and we are in lockdown again before you know it. Not good.
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Post by Mrs Figg Thu Aug 26, 2021 8:42 pm

oh boy, in England its chaos. Full on huge festivals like before 2020 are resulting in mass super spreading events. Absolute, full on herd immunity, just letting it rip. Fucking barking Mad!
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Post by Mrs Figg Sat Sep 04, 2021 3:57 pm

Bloody heck that's depressing. The brainwashing of these people is tragic. When I was a kid social media didn't exist, anti-vaxxers didnt exist. You just had the fucking vaccine, end of story. That's why people don't get Polio and TB any more. I cant bear to listen to these poor fools.

Here they are seriously thinking of making the jab mandatory, and I totally agree, as does most of society. The minority may refuse but they wont be able to live freely and denied access to many things which will give them less freedom.
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Post by Mrs Figg Sat Sep 18, 2021 4:54 pm

So it looks like full vaccine mandate here starts in October, all working age people in public and private work must be vaccinated. If they refuse they wont be sacked but they and their employers will be sanctioned and fined. Its a good idea. I think we are the only European country to mandate vaccines. I had my first use of the Green Pass yesterday, at the library, had my pass scanned by the App and had my temperature taken and was told to use the hand sanitiser gel provided. The other day I had to go to the airport to ask a question about travel and was only allowed in once I had got sprayed from head to foot in an entrance booth with some kind of weirdo mist, its probably ozone or something.

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Post by halfwise Sun Sep 19, 2021 12:36 pm

that spray down is a bit odd. We know by now that nearly all transmission is by aerosol - the wiping down just isn't so important.

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Post by Mrs Figg Sun Sep 19, 2021 1:54 pm

I guess it makes sense to disinfect before getting on seats which thousands will have used.
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Post by halfwise Sun Sep 19, 2021 3:34 pm

There's sense in doing that in a more open environment than a plane cabin, though spraying people is more area to cover than seats.

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