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Post by Orwell Wed Jul 21, 2021 4:34 am

Looking at your post, Chris, I’m almost optimistic. The older works of Tolkien were more Grimms Fairytales than Magic Far Away Tree, so I expect a darker story overall. And the mention of the corruption of Elves into Orcs sends a chill down my spine. But it was there in Tolkien. 🤞

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Post by Pettytyrant101 Wed Jul 21, 2021 4:45 am

{{ Black hobbits is an interesting interpretation of Harfoots being 'browner' than the other two strands of hobbits. Plus I take everything from OneRing.net with a ginormous pinch of salt they arse lick something awful for news.
Reading between some lines with more sensible crabbit Forumshire eyes I see  'diversity' where its not needed or sensible and as to Tolkien experts being on set, 'for a time' five minutes is a time, besides they described Boyens as a Tolkien expert on the PJ films and she most certainly was not. Nudity is sparse and not sexualised, but still present, because of course it is could barely turn a page of Tolkiens writings without nudity  Mad And concentration camp style visuals? Are we trying to make social points Amazon? - just tell the fucking story as is!!! And short haired elves, because yeah why not make arbitary choices, not like any elves are famous for their long hair 'cough' Galadriel. As for the Tolkien Estate being happy, now Christopher is gone seems to me money makes them happy now- as demonstrated by Amazon having the merch rights, I can only dread what that will lead to.
I'd love to be proved wrong on this one, but my crabbit senses are tingling.}}


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Post by Orwell Wed Jul 21, 2021 5:00 am

I think it’s a good strategy to lower my fairly low expectations, Petty. Maybe it will be bad but not so bad that I can’t get through an episode or two? Good thinking. And people say that crabbit helps nought. By Tom Bombadil’s yella boots! Who the fook are ‘they’! Extremely Crabbit

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Post by halfwise Wed Jul 21, 2021 5:48 am

Gotta admit that while the news that the Tolkien Estate being happy made me perk up, Petty makes a very sharp point about how different things are with Christopher out of the picture.  This is looking like a wait and see type of affair, with more ways it can go wrong than right.  The pilot episode will settle it pretty quick.

But I wonder - we just learned that Tom Budge was playing Celebrimbor, but after the first filming he's out, saying that the studio wanted to go a different direction with his character. That's a pretty major shake-up: I'd call Celebrimbor the #2 character in the Second Age, so that means a major re-envisioning of the whole story. Tolkien doesn't give us a whole lot to go on, so I can see how the writing would be a struggle. I'd call it a good thing that they were ruthless enough to throw out one of their leading stars this far into production.

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Post by Orwell Wed Jul 21, 2021 6:50 am

Maybe Budge was frightened of Petty and negotiated an exit? 🤔

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{{ They only need fear the crabbit if they make something crabbit inducing- they have been warned!  Twisted Evil It's in their own hands.
My biggest fear is that their own agendas, political and social will dominate the screen and destroy the very fabric of Tolkiens work, just as such writing has Doctor Who, Star Wars and many other once great franchises and they will forget the very core tenant any adaptation of Tolkien must adhere to - that freedom must reside in the mind of the viewer, not by the imposition of the writers. }}

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Post by Orwell Thu Jul 22, 2021 12:22 am

Pettytyrant101 wrote:{{ They only need fear the crabbit if they make something crabbit inducing- they have been warned!  Twisted Evil It's in their own hands.
My biggest fear is that their own agendas, political and social will dominate the screen and destroy the very fabric of Tolkiens work, just as such writing has Doctor Who, Star Wars and many other once great franchises and they will forget the very core tenant any adaptation of Tolkien must adhere to - that freedom must reside in the mind of the viewer, not by the imposition of the writers. }}

And if it’s allegorical, I’ll cuss.Extremely Crabbit

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Post by Orwell Thu Jul 22, 2021 12:27 am

I have sudden terrible thoughts of naked elves being oppressed by patriarchal monsters and little black hobbits that, contrary to the intent of the ideologues, come to be thought of as pygmies not hobbits! 😳


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Post by Mrs Figg Thu Jul 22, 2021 12:28 pm

You can be sure there is going to be some of that stuff. Suspect
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Post by Forest Shepherd Thu Jul 22, 2021 10:22 pm

Sir Lenny Henry portrays one such early halfling [Harfoot]

Holy crow, they actually did it. The mad lads. Black hobbits. lol

Most hobbits are Harfoots, and so the idea that the most English place in all of Middle-earth is going to resemble a sub-Saharan African town in its population and that Tolkien meant such a thing to be is so stupid that I think I need to take a walk.

Oh and what about this, most hobbit leaders are Fallohides, who are "fair-haired and fair-skinned", so if we go with this new conceptualization, then the Shire is going to start resembling South Africa under Apartheid. What an awesome tribute to Tolkien's birthplace! Wow, very happy with this. 

A lot of fuss over a single cast-member? Perhaps, but I'm not the one fucking around here.

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Post by halfwise Fri Jul 23, 2021 5:19 am

A lot of fuss over a single cast-member? Perhaps, but I'm not the one fucking around here.

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Post by Mrs Figg Fri Jul 23, 2021 1:03 pm

Nigerian Hobbits oh my! afro :facepalm:
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halfwise wrote:Do you add anything to make your cider, or just let it sit out a bit?
I added this stuff that helps make it clearer, some sugar, and some yeast. You can let the yeast that's naturally on the apples do the job, but the idea is that you get more consistent results with an added yeast product.

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