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Post by halfwise Fri Nov 19, 2021 4:44 pm

An update for those who may watch: only the first 30 minutes is about LotR, then it diverts, then around minute 55 it comes back to asking questions about LotR.

But I'm glad I watched much of the rest - learned about the book "Justinian's Flea" which I just ordered based on his recommendation.

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Post by Forest Shepherd Thu Dec 09, 2021 1:29 am

I was just rewatching the Bakshi Totally Screwed Over Dub, and I just thought it was easy humour when Aragorn answers Sam's question about who the Argonath are with "Those are Nazis...". But then I realized the statues are doing the Roman salute lol.

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Post by halfwise Thu Dec 09, 2021 3:03 am

Thank god, something other than that dratted Who thread.

I never thought of it as a salute, but a warning: go no further unless you are okay being on Gondorian turf.

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Post by Forest Shepherd Thu Dec 09, 2021 5:18 am

Are you thinking of the animated Bakshi or the Jackson versions?

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Post by Mrs Figg Thu Dec 09, 2021 12:42 pm

All the illustrations I have seen is a hand up saying 'stop', not a Roman salute.
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Post by Mrs Figg Thu Dec 09, 2021 12:47 pm

Talking of Romans, this is what they would have sounded like. and its not like Monty Python and his Biggus Dickus or Russell Crowe. Very Happy

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Post by halfwise Thu Dec 09, 2021 1:29 pm

Funny, I had just come across that myself.  The youtube algorithm must be less individually tailored that I thought...or has general streams for people with the same general interests. That's not a new clip.

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Post by Pettytyrant101 Thu Dec 09, 2021 2:53 pm

{{ Think its just general interests, as we all share vids often we all get them showing up- after I'd watched a few of the Tolkien ones Chris posts I get them showing up all the time now in my recommended. And lot of rest us watch Who stuff, or stuff on science or politics or other topics that regular get coverage on here outside of Tolkien so we probably all get fair share of similar vide showing up on those topics too I'd fancy. }}

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Post by Forest Shepherd Fri Dec 10, 2021 7:48 am

The other language sounds very German. I wonder how it compares to modern?

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Post by Amarië Fri Dec 10, 2021 10:58 am

It is modern German. It sounded very modern from the little German I know, so I checked the comments on the video to make sure.

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Post by Mrs Figg Fri Dec 10, 2021 11:19 am

It also sounded like old Anglo Saxon which would follow considering.
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Post by Forest Shepherd Sat Dec 11, 2021 12:07 am

Well then the show is only half accurate. The Germanic tribes were not speaking modern German in 200 AD or whenever this is.

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Post by Pettytyrant101 Sat Dec 11, 2021 1:21 am

{{ Well its Roman times so it predates Anglo-Saxon most likely what the Germans were speaking then would sound pretty close to Welsh, as the Celtic tribes of Britain were just Germanic tribes who came north and settled Britain, absorbing the smaller already established neolithic farmers already there. }}

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Post by Forest Shepherd Sat Dec 11, 2021 3:26 am

It's not set in England though. This is over in Germany basically.

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Post by Pettytyrant101 Sat Dec 11, 2021 11:53 am

{{ Yeah but the Welsh language is a survivor from those times and its language roots are in Germany of that time and the Germanic tribes of that time- so they probably sounded quite alike back then German tribes and Welsh tribes as they were basically the exact same peoples only on extended holiday. }}

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Post by Amarië Sat Dec 11, 2021 1:12 pm

Forest Shepherd wrote:Well then the show is only half accurate. The Germanic tribes were not speaking modern German in 200 AD or whenever this is.

True. But it is a German show, so it makes sense that the people we follow speak German.

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Post by halfwise Sat Dec 11, 2021 2:55 pm

That one common sense argument neatly trumps all the historical sophistication exhibited on this page. Razz

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Post by Amarië Sat Dec 11, 2021 3:25 pm

That info too came from the comment section, I don't know anything about the show. But it was it was fairly logical to me that modern German ment it was aimed for speakers of modern German. It is a common way of doing it, like how Frodo doesn't speak English, but there's bits of Elvish in there. Robin Hood shouldn't speak modern English... King Arthur. Jesus. Sofa

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Post by halfwise Sat Dec 11, 2021 3:30 pm

the historical sophistication was doing some fancy gymnastics to get the "right" answer.

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Post by Forest Shepherd Sat Dec 11, 2021 11:08 pm

Mrs Figg wrote:All the illustrations I have seen is a hand up saying 'stop', not a Roman salute.
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Post by Amarië Sat Dec 11, 2021 11:36 pm

Still not raised high enough imo. That's more of a "you got to be this tall to enter" hand. But close enough for a giggle, sure.

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{{ Yup does rather make you think that as they passed beneath a booming voice would cry out, "Stop! You are not tall enough to go on this ride." }}

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Post by halfwise Sun Dec 12, 2021 2:15 pm

I think they are trying not to be too rude about it.  Sort of like when you are about to walk through a gate and the people standing there make that gesture and you're not sure if it's a wave or a command to stop, so you stop ready to make some polite conversation.  It usually means they have some information to impart before you go in.  The traffic cops often do that as they are waving through the turn lane on the other cross street - it means "hold on for now" rather than "STOP!" The difference between that and "you must be yay high" is about 20 degrees.

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I see & hear this when I look at the Argonath Smile

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